I don't think Sasuke's body will reject Oro I think most likely Oro was being rejected by that body one because it was a weak body in the first place and two because he had no curse seal on him. I think if Oro gets a strong enough body he will be able to stay in it indefinitely thus making his technique worthy of being called an immortality jutsu.
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I don't know if this was mentioned before but I think the reason why Oro's body keeps rejecting him after a while is because this is Oro's temporary method of immortality. Meaning, as long as he keeps switching bodies, he can live forever. I think it was hinted out when we saw that woman's face as the inner Oro during the fight with the 3rd. Not too sure but there just seems no other explanation why his body keeps rejecting him and he has to keep going through the hassle of obtaining new bodies.
Problaby one failure experiment that went really wrong when he first tried the soul tranfer on himself.
Just a wild guess.
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What do you mean why his body keeps rejecting him. This is the first time we have seen any of Oro's host bodies start rejecting and I believe that is simply because he didn't have anytime to prepare it, as he was completely focused on Sasuke at the time. He went into this body out of desperation. Besides didn't Oro leave the village about some 20 odd years ago and when he met the third he told him that girl was only his second body so he most definitely can stay in a body for more than three years.Originally Posted by February
Last edited by Abdula; Sun, 03-02-2008 at 10:54 PM.
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You assumed that he started changing bodies more than six years prior to meeting the Third. Can you justify that assumption?
Well if it could be justified it wouldn't be an assumption, infact I'm pretty sure I'm wrong. According to the what Akatsuki said Oro left their organization over ten years ago. We were shown a piece of his arm from when he first fought with Itachi and after losing to him he left Akatsuki. The important thing there is that when he fought Itachi he was still in his original body and he was attempting to use his technique to take over Itachi's body, thats what I gather from his words.
So if he was attempting to use the technique on Itachi and he was defeated and his body severely injured then sometime soon after he must have used the technique to take over another body. When he met the third he said that that was his second body if you do the math then for the seven years after he left Akatsuki he had two bodies, so it does add it.
The one problem I have with this is that it means that Oro went through all the trouble of "recruiting" Sasuke and everything just so he could use his body for three years. Since I don't think thats the case it either means that he has a more powerful technique that would enable him to stay in one body indefinitely or he really is able to take whatever techniques he acquires from his host with him when he leaves, including Kekkei Genkais.
So February's probably right that this is just a temporary Immortality technique which doesn't seem to be worth all the hassle unless he either has a "permanent" technique or this one has other fringe benefits.
Last edited by Abdula; Mon, 03-03-2008 at 12:07 AM.
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What I think is a new interesting opportunity for Oro is him finding out that the research he performed on Yamato can actually work.
Now that he knows it can work, he can make bodies with any bloodline limit he can manage to get a dead body from.
So if this thing with Sasuke falls through for him, he can always get another one with an Uchiha corpse and a bunch of babies.
I thought we talked about this already. That Akatsuki must already have very poweful Bijuu suppression or control techniques and the very fact that Oro wasn't even interested in Yamato only confirms this. Dead bodies so the fact that only 1 in 100 would probably survive and the fact that the technique would only be a weak imitation of the original doesn't matter. Plus the first's technique wasn't a bloodline limit so even if that could work with his technique doesn't mean it could work with something as complex as the sharingan. The first's technique is rather simple in comparison.
Really its the same thing as when people say why doesn't Oro just pull a Kakashi and pluck out Sasuke's eyes.
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What do you mean the first's technique isn't a bloodline limit?
Of course it is. Why would you need his DNA to use it if it wasn't a bloodline limit?
bloodline limits are passed down through your decendants. It wasn't the case, since Tsunade can't perform those techniques. Yamato could only do it since he was infused with the First's DNA. That makes the First's ability unique to him only, and so not a Bloodline limit, since it doesn't flow down the "bloodline".
I think I remember from Haku's flashback his mom hoping the bloodline limit [that came from either her or Haku's father, I dont know which] would skip a generation so he wouldn't get it, and thus be alienated/persecuted/etc. Meaning I dont think descendants of those with bloodline limits are guaranteed to be born with one.
Damn people it was said that the first's technique just like the third Kazekage's technique were techniques only they, the individuals, could perform not any bloodline limits. As for bloodline limits I haven't seen any skip a generation, the point of the bloodline limit is that everyone who has that blood can do it. The only exception we've seen is the sharingan, although every Uchiha has that potential, they aren't just born with the ability they have to awaken it. Please no one try to make the stupid argument that maybe Tsunade has to awaken her abilities, please.
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I believe it was also stated that not all Uchiha obtain the Sharingan, though that could mean not all are able to eventually activate it but all are born with the potential or it could mean some people born of two Uchiha parents just won't be able to activate it at all and some will. I don't think we've been given enough info to be sure of either.
With what we know of the First's technique it does seem like a Bloodline Limit ability because it was contained in his genetic makeup, however it could be the case that the precise mix of genetics required to make it possible only happened in the First and none of his descendants got the right gene mix to allow them to use it too, effectively making it unique to him.
EDIT @Abdula: Same thing with the Kazekage, their abilities are most likely genetically unique to their particular genetic makeup but got destroyed when they mixed genes with another person to produce offspring, that way the abilities wouldn't really fit under the definition of Bloodline Limit since it seems to imply that the technique is more likely than not to be passed down to future generations.
Last edited by Yukimura; Mon, 03-03-2008 at 01:37 PM.
Well in the case of the Uchiha from what we saw during Sasuke's flashback of when Itachi killed the clan the majority of them weren't even ninjas and thus couldn't hope to activate the sharingan. I think why most of them don't get it is simply because it requires special circumstances to be activated.
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