Naruto Shippuuden Episode 47

[Abdula]

i know that you are not talking about physical strength, but NOBODY is talking about it and that is why "strength" (power, smartness etc, bleh bleh) isn't irrelevant

Yes in terms of being able to defeat an opponent it kinda is because simply stabbing someone in the back with a kunai could kill them and your definition of strength is far too vague but I suppose it can't be helped

which can be translated with "only strong ninjas get into anbu"

well but if thats the case, then i wonder what is so special with itachi being an ANBU in young age.

What was special about Itachi is that at that age he was supposedly the captain or highest ranked member of the anbu.

i didn't mean that ninjas are trained to deafeat a specific oppenent but a specific class which is a big difference. i always thought that ANBU members just use their techniques which they gained from training (chuunin, jounin exam etc).. and ninjas who aren't fit for assasinations (or something like that) simply don't get into ANBU (maybe because their techniques are more usefull in other areas)

so any ANBU member learned in his exams and missions how to handle himself in real combat but since his techniques are also great for assassination (or whatever ANBU members need for being "ANBU") they get invited into that organisation (or lets say "squad")

Both would be right since there has yet to be any clear explanation of just what the requirements are for becoming an anbu or just how one is recruited.

what i meant is "which type of ninja would you send against someone who basically knows thousands of (forbidden) techniques and created another dozen by himself which you never saw before"

the same goes for sasuke... they only know about the chidori and sharingan (and his fire techniques) but he was in his training-years... so he could possibly have gained a totally different style of fighting since he was teached and trained by a different person as before

btw sorry for ripping your comment apart

The best type of ninja to send against someone like Oro would be a highly competent ninja who also knows alot of techniques, who has good skill and speed so they would be able to counter his techniques and who also has their own original techniques that Oro would have a hard time dealing with. Itachi, Kakashi even Sasuke himself would fit that description. The only major problem with dealing with Oro is that he is immortal which is why everyone is trying to find out just how his jutsu works in the hopes that they can find a way to kill him.

As for Sasuke that is simple enough a ninja who specializes in strong long range techniques would be able to deal with him, someone not unlike Sai himself although his techniques seem rather easy to overcome, better suited opponents would be Gaara or Deidara.

I trust you can see all the flaws in that logic but thats the way it would work and as far as battles go no one can account for all the variables in any battle which is where being a "ninja" comes into play.

No need to apologize for anything.

[ASSpirine]

Oro isn't really immortal. He does have the possibility to transfer his soul in another body thus giving him some sorts of immortality, but he CAN die. He could be killed during a battle.

[DarthEnderX]

Can he? Seems like everytime he takes a serious injury he sheds his skin and is completely healed.

[Chiodos]

Wich gives the thoughts that what if he's beheaded? He just...sheds skin and is fine after?

When the time really comes, he'll problaby go with a big bang.

[Abdula]

Oro isn't really immortal. He does have the possibility to transfer his soul in another body thus giving him some sorts of immortality, but he CAN die. He could be killed during a battle.

Ironically enough immortality doesn't mean that you can't be killed its usually refers to the length of one's "natural" lifespan, vampires, werewolves even gods can be killed. Invincibility on the other hand is a different story.

[KrayZ33]

when he "sheds out of his skin" doesn't it mean that his lifecircle is reduced?

so its something like naruto suffers when he uses the power of the 9-tails, his skin is ripped apart and regenerated instantly..

couldn't this be the real reason why some bodys start to reject him earlier than others? if he has to use it too often then he has to switch earlier.

[Abdula]

Oro is not like Naruto besides the Kyuubi, Naruto is a completely normal human. Oro has experimented both on others and himself and used many many forbidden jutsus to get the body he has. Besides I thought the rejection thing had more to do with his three years almost being up than anything else.

[Chiodos]

Actually, I don't even remember why, why does his body reject him ?

[Abdula]

It was never officially explained but there can be any number of explanations, you just pick whatever suits you.

[Archangel]

U have to wonder if sasukes body will last more than 3 years. After all the original plan was to get itachi and that would mean a world of trouble for just 3 years. Maibe he has a more defenitive transfer since he wants the sharingan so bad.

[Assertn]

Maybe he retains the abilities of the previous hosts after switching, so it doesn't matter if he only keeps the body for 3 years. He did have a plan to obtain all the world's jutsu, after all...I don't know how he could access all that in just a single container.

[Abdula]

Yeah I believed we discussed this before but supposedly Oro is able to retain the abilities he has acquired even after he leaves the host's body.

[redcat]

even bloodline limits?

[Uberbaka]

I originally thought that Oro wanted the sharingan (if only for a couple of years) to simply speed up the process of getting all the jutsus, not to actually be able to keep it forever.

Although thinking about it he did have Kimimaro who he wanted to use as a vessel which would indicate that he can bring bloodlines with him as he switches?

[DarthEnderX]

Abdula is just speculating. We don't have enough information to make that judgement yet.

My personal opinion is that because his current body didn't have a cursed seal to bind him to Orochimaru, and wasn't very powerful to begin with, is why its wearing out so fast. And that Sasuke and Kimimaru, who are both much stronger, and had seals binding them to Oro, would last much longer for him.

[ASSpirine]

Wanting Kimimaro was for his superior body and of course his bloodline. But I don't think you can transfer a bloodline with your soul to another container. What Oro CAN do, take over Sasuke and breed like hell with women he captures and locks down in his prison. Big chance the sharingan lives on

[Chiodos]

Sharingan is is the Uchiha's Bloodline Limit, right?
Then that means that somehow, freakin somehow, he is able to transfer Bloodline Limits through the soul transfer he does?

Or am I totally out somewhere else?

[Buffalobiian]

It was never stated Oro, or anybody, can transfer bloodline techniques. Though, when he does move on from Sasuke, he can get Kabuto to gauge out Sasuke's eyes and do a Kakashi.

[Abdula]

NO much like everything else about Oro it was never clearly stated but it was inferred. I can't remember who first came up with the theory, it was a couple years ago but he had a very compelling argument including some clever little hints from the data book.

If it was as simple as gouging out Sasuke's eyes Oro would have done it already. Kakashi himself is proof that while that may work its not the same as having an Uchiha's body. Oro wants the power of the Uchihas and to attain their real power he needs both the eyes and the body which is why he went after Itachi in the first place, the strongest of them. If all he needed was the eyes he would have already taken Sasuke's or even taken Kakashi's sharingan.

[Buffalobiian]

Indeed that would be the case, should Sasuke's body not reject him after some time. Since the seal's on him, and Oro wants it so badly, he'll probably get Kabuto to do all he can so he can keep it for as long as he wants. But in the case that it does reject him and he needs to move on, it'll make the difference of whether you have the Sharingan or not. As you've stated, it won't work as well, but having it is definitely better than not, considering Oro's plan of learning every single technique there is. It's probably not a good idea to transfer both eyes though, since you'll want to rest them without being blind.