Naruto Shippuuden Episode 47

[DarthEnderX]

so danzo , the guy who sends out a single noob-anbu-ninja against Oro and Sasuke, is a logical minded person?

I think you're nuts if you think Sai is a single noob-anbu. First of all, no Anbu member is a noob, they don't make noobs into Anbu.

Second, we've never even seen Sai in a real fight yet.

[Abdula]

Thats what they say he is and I think so. Sending a group would have not only been too suspicious but they would have been easily spotted like Naruto and the others were. One person attempting to infiltrate any organization would always have higher chances of success than a group of people would. In any case I don't see Sai standing any chance against either Oro, Sasuke or Kabuto.

Sai freaked out when he heard someone coming in through the door it wasn't because of what he saw in the book.

[KrayZ33]

Sai freaked out when he heard someone coming in through the door it wasn't because of what he saw in the book.

ah, i didn't mean that, his eyes grew bigger when he spotted someone in the book which is most likly "freaking out" in sai's case, you know he's an emotionless emo.. so any change in his mimic must be because of a really strong rush of emotions.

[KrayZ33]

well thats because yamato wasn't supposed to fight oro or sasuke, but sasori's spy and that is why Sai can't possible be there to kill either oro or sasuke, because he couldn't know that they would appear.

this is just toooo weird to be planned.. the whole outcome of the fight between naruto and oro was soooo random.

how could sai even negotiate with the spy when yamato,sakura and naruto is around... he was lucky that oro is such a badass and able to hold these people back, a normal ninja wouldn't possible have won against naruto

[Abdula]

True. They probably just planned for the possibility. If things had gone as planned they would have captured Kabuto and brought him back to the village and that would have been that. I was wondering what would have happened if Oro's body hadn't begun rejecting him at such an opportune time. If he and Naruto had kept fighting one would have had to kill the other at some point and I'm sure the others would have gotten involved and most likely died.

[Abdula]

Oh okay, they tend to do that alot in Naruto it looks especially stupid when it happens during fights.

[Assertn]

Even if neither Oro nor Sasuke showed up, they would have infiltrated a base sooner or later, so Sai was in a good position to get where he is now.


@Abdula: are you trying to downplay the reaction from Sai who, otherwise, is a pretty emotionless person?

Of course its not just a bingo book....not only should Sai already know that everyone in the base are traitors, but it shouldn't be a secret to Oro or Kabuto either. It has to be something far more specific and far more revealing of Sai's true objective.

[Abdula]

Not really, I just don't think it makes any sense. Its his bingo book and he has obviously already used it so he should already know everyone in there, yet he seems surprised. It just stupid to me especially because he is supposed to be an emotionless character. He didn't have any reaction to Naruto and Oro, to Sakura falling to her death, when he was jumped from behind by Kabuto, when he was punched by Sakura, or having his "clone" stabbed by Oro but a face in a book is supposed to surprise him. One he should already know for that matter makes no sense to me.

[Chiodos]

..he showed a expression becuse after Sasuke "woke" a "something" in Sai's subconciounsness.

Or maybe that's the dumbest thing ever and it doesn't make sense.

And they gave pretty much away the next episode in this preview.

[KrayZ33]

and i think you're nuts if you think a normal kid(!!!!) (without a tail-beast) can even stand a chance against oro.

and btw he is like 16 or 17 (at least he looks like he is as old as naruto), so he can't possibly be a veteran which makes him a noob-anbu.
he's too young to fight against someone of the sanin-class

i don't think he is weak either, but simply not on the level with oro or naruto (enraged)...

to the bingo book:

well it must be something important, i don't think , even if we talk about "naruto" here, that they would make a scene as long as this (with the summoning of the book etc.) for nothing.

[DarthEnderX]

and i think you're nuts if you think a normal kid(!!!!) (without a tail-beast) can even stand a chance against oro.

and btw he is like 16 or 17 (at least he looks like he is as old as naruto), so he can't possibly be a veteran which makes him a noob-anbu.

Except that there's people like Itachi who are ANBU from like age 10. And who's to say Sai's not one of those people.

But no, I don't think he's there to take on Oro, I think he's there to kill Sasuke, presumably when Oro isn't standing right there at the time.

[the_small_guy]

tbh this is my educated guess (for the record i dont read the manga!)

i rekon kabuto is sai's brother, they look too alike and if sai is the one on the one side of the book then the person on the other side is someone who looks like the drawing

and my guess at 'sai's real mission' is OBV to kill someone but i think maybe also to take their place, if in the book sai is drawing he take the clothing of the person hes killed before i think its meant to symbolise becoming that person.
so i think hes trying to kill kabuto and take his place next to oro

just a PURE guess over the episodes ive seen. what purpose that could represent though i dont know, but im sure all will be revealed

EDIT: also is it just me or did sasuke talking to oro sound like naruto? 'teach me a new technique'

[Rek]

Honestly, I would doubt they would go through so much work just to have one person infiltrate the hideout for an assassination. Yamato got into the hideout with alot less work, and no ANBU identities were compromised. Sai is prolly just getting information, or Danzou really is trying to fuck Konoha over.
And even attempting to think they would send anyone after Orochimaru is naive. He's a Sannin. Duh.

[Yukimura]

If the Sannin are as strong as they are then other people could theoretically become as strong as them as well. They all started out as regular people (maybe not Oro...) and became legendary because they had a super badass teacher and they worked their asses off. I don't see Sai taking out Oro in any known universe, however to think no one in Konoha could ever beat him just because he's a Sanin would be the naive thing.

[Rek]

I didn't say ever could, I'm saying at this point in time.

[the_small_guy]

I don't see Sai taking out Oro in any known universe.

but saying that we havent really seen sai fight yet, we dont know exactly how strong he is. all ive got so far is that hes at least somewhat smart from when naruto and yamato were practising before oro appeared

[Abdula]

Strength is irrelevant Sai like most of the Anbu guys seem to be all about technique, meaning they are trained and designed to excel in certain situations and against a specific type of opponent. All Anbu both current and former are all smart, not somewhat, they have to be. I haven't seen a single thing to suggest otherwise.

[KrayZ33]

Strength is irrelevant

no its not, is stength = physically for you?

i accept the fact that most likely ANBU are (as the name says) trained for assasination and special tactics

so if they were sent out to fight enemy X it will most likely end like the fight between temari and the girl with the flute.

temari who is that girls "natural enemy" will defeat her easily but ANBU don't act in teams and squads for nothing, because nobody knows what will happen if someone else appears during the fight or mission and because of that, they have to be skilled in a general way.

the way you handle yourself in such a situation is what i would call "strength"
and that is why only "strong" jounin get into anbu.

and i doubt that root or konoha in general knows which type of ninja is effective against sasuke or someone like orochimaru who is able to use nearly any kind of technique. (i think)

[Abdula]

I wasn't talking about physical strength which is exactly why I said that most anbu seem to be specialized in a specific areas and trained to excel in certain situations or against a specific type of opponent.

Btw not all anbu are "strong" jounins or jounins at all, to me it appears that its the other way around and that most people join or are recruited to the anbu when they are very young and exhibit exceptional skill. They usually become jounins while they are in or after they leave the anbu. I didn't say anything about one ninja being trained to defeat one specific opponent lets say, like Sai's only purpose would be to defeat Oro, that is just stupid.

Yes all anbu should and would be able to handle themselves in any situation they happen to find themselves in they are elite ninjas after all and the essence of a ninja is being able to adapt to any situation.

What I said was that each anbu seems to have a specific area or situation in which they are either trained to excel in or are naturally adept at. The same could be said of any ninja but the anbu operate on another level compared to normal ninjas.

And what do you mean you doubt konoha knows which type of ninja would be effective against someone like Sasuke or Orochimaru. That is just stupid, not only do they have detailed information on these things(bingo book) but these are ninjas from their own village so while you can't simply say X ninja would defeat Y opponent they would know which ninja would have a higher chance of success against said opponent and would then send him/her on that mission.

[KrayZ33]

I wasn't talking about physical strength which is exactly why I said that most anbu seem to be specialized in a specific areas and trained to excel in certain situations or against a specific type of opponent.

i know that you are not talking about physical strength, but NOBODY is talking about it and that is why "strength" (power, smartness etc, bleh bleh) isn't irrelevant

Btw not all anbu are "strong" jounins or jounins at all, to me it appears that its the other way around and that most people join or are recruited to the anbu when they are very young and exhibit exceptional skill.

which can be translated with "only strong ninjas get into anbu"

well but if thats the case, then i wonder what is so special with itachi being an ANBU in young age.

They usually become jounins while they are in or after they leave the anbu. I didn't say anything about one ninja being trained to defeat one specific opponent lets Sai, like Sai's only purpose would be to defeat Oro, that is just stupid. Yes all anbu should and would be able to handle themselves in any situation they happen to find themselves in they are elite ninjas after all and the essence of a ninja is being able to adapt to any situation.

i didn't mean that ninjas are trained to deafeat a specific oppenent but a specific class which is a big difference. i always thought that ANBU members just use their techniques which they gained from training (chuunin, jounin exam etc).. and ninjas who aren't fit for assasinations (or something like that) simply don't get into ANBU (maybe because their techniques are more usefull in other areas)

so any ANBU member learned in his exams and missions how to handle himself in real combat but since his techniques are also great for assassination (or whatever ANBU members need for being "ANBU") they get invited into that organisation (or lets say "squad")

What I said was that each anbu seems to have a specific area or situation in which they are either trained to excel in or are naturally adept at. The same could be said of any ninja but the anbu operate on another level compared to normal ninjas.

well is ANBU a training camp? i m not sure but i always thought thats only the case when we talk about Root

And what do you mean you doubt konoha knows which type of ninja would be effective against someone like Sasuke or Orochimaru. That is just stupid, not only do they have detailed information on these things(bingo book) but these are ninjas from their own village so while you can't simply say X ninja would defeat Y opponent they would know which ninja would have a higher chance of success against said opponent and would then send him/her on that mission.

what i meant is "which type of ninja would you send against someone who basically knows thousands of (forbidden) techniques and created another dozen by himself which you never saw before"

the same goes for sasuke... they only know about the chidori and sharingan (and his fire techniques) but he was in his training-years when he left... so he could possibly have gained a totally different style of fighting since he was teached and trained by a different person as before

btw sorry for ripping your comment apart