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    Wow, I just watched the Punisher from 2004 in its entirety... terrible movie. Why does Marvel feel the need to make all of their movies so cartoony and juvenile? The Batman Begins treatment for the Punisher movie would be so much better. From the looks of the preview clip you posted, it looks like they'll keep the same kind of cartoon-violence Punisher from the first movie.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Animeniax View Post
    Wow, I just watched the Punisher from 2004 in its entirety... terrible movie. Why does Marvel feel the need to make all of their movies so cartoony and juvenile? The Batman Begins treatment for the Punisher movie would be so much better. From the looks of the preview clip you posted, it looks like they'll keep the same kind of cartoon-violence Punisher from the first movie.
    It's not a preview clip of anything. It's just Thomas Jane, and whomever else was involved, doing a 10 minute short movie for the heck of it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Munsu View Post
    It's not a preview clip of anything. It's just Thomas Jane, and whomever else was involved, doing a 10 minute short movie for the heck of it.
    Oh ok, thought it was a preview of a forthcoming new Punisher movie. It could work, but they need better writers if they want to make it a viable franchise.


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    Oh ok, thought it was a preview of a forthcoming new Punisher movie. It could work, but they need better writers if they want to make it a viable franchise.
    And a more experienced director. I think they had the right idea with War Zone, but a bit of a poor execution. Out of the "superheroes" out there, Punisher seems like the most similar to Batman, and if done well it has the potential to become big.

    Another that missed the boat was Spawn, and it's one I would love to see remade. I mean, who in the hell thought it was a good idea to release this movie as a PG-13... even the cartoons are R rated and aired on HBO with nudity and good dosage of violence.

    That said, I haven't watched Spawn in a long time. I just got myself the Director's Cut version, don't know if it's any better.

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    I haven't seen War Zone but it's in my rental queue. Definitely better direction will go a long way to making it a good if not great franchise. I say that because the revenge angle is already well covered in movies and the Punisher doesn't have the cool gadgets or villains like Batman. He's basically just guns and death and not much else.

    I haven't seen Spawn in a long time either but it could use a remake. The first movie was so cartoony and ridiculous, considering the subject matter. I can see why Hollywood would want to keep it PG-13, but it doesn't do the story justice to water down the fact that he is hell spawn and fighting demons and evil.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Animeniax View Post
    Wow, I just watched the Punisher from 2004 in its entirety... terrible movie. Why does Marvel feel the need to make all of their movies so cartoony and juvenile? The Batman Begins treatment for the Punisher movie would be so much better. From the looks of the preview clip you posted, it looks like they'll keep the same kind of cartoon-violence Punisher from the first movie.
    I also recently watched the same Punisher movie a few months ago and it was nowhere near as good as I thought I remembered...I should have just left it as a distorted memory.

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    Quote Originally Posted by fahoumh View Post
    I also recently watched the same Punisher movie a few months ago and it was nowhere near as good as I thought I remembered...I should have just left it as a distorted memory.
    Maybe the hype/expectation helped you enjoy the movie more back then. I find that I am more forgiving when watching a movie that I've been looking forward to, if it's not over-hyped or if I can enjoy it regardless of the hype. Plus it was 8 years ago (presumably when you saw it). I've gone back and re-watched movies and regretted it... like you said, some things are better left as pleasant memories.

    The Punisher felt like an 80s or 90s film to me, not something that would have come out in the 2000s.


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