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    I also wonder if it was a wise decision not to tell Naruto anything.
    Sakura making a wise decision would be out of character.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kraco
    maybe enough to sprout the fifth tail.
    wise... maybe not. entertaining HELL YEA!

    pretty straightforward ep... but i gotta say, this arc is way better than the sand one and i'm actually anticipating the next ep.

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    I think its cute that Naruto used to spend most of his time trying to get Sakura to like him and now that she does he's to busy to notice.

    Quote Originally Posted by Kraco
    Well, they didn't wait very long to find out. Sakura began to heal him immediately. I mean, if your skin gets damaged like that, it's not a matter of a few days in any case. Maybe Naruto would have healed in a couple of days if left unattended.
    Naruto usually heals all his wounds when he sleeps overnight. He probably would have been fine the next day.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kraco
    Well, they didn't wait very long to find out. Sakura began to heal him immediately. I mean, if your skin gets damaged like that, it's not a matter of a few days in any case. Maybe Naruto would have healed in a couple of days if left unattended. But since they intend to follow Oro, they don't have time to waste.

    I also wonder if it was a wise decision not to tell Naruto anything. If he knows nothing, the next meeting with Oro will end up identically to this one. If he knew, though, that he became a mindless beast who attacked even Sakura, he might fight back and only use three tails. But now he thinks Oro knocked him unconscious, so he will be all the more angry and pissed off at the next meeting. Who knows, maybe enough to sprout the fifth tail. And then a real hell will break loose.
    Very true but I don't think we will be seeing a fifth tail. After three Naruto completely loses control and travels within the seal. At that point the Kyuubi takes control and floods Naruto's body with its chakra trying to approximate its original form, as much as possible. Thats the important part, if Naruto could use more of the Kyuubi's power at that point then he would, so I would say that for now Naruto can't go beyond four.

    I also think that there is some other reason why Naruto is suddenly able to use that much of the Kyuubi's power, anger alone can't be the trigger. If you think about it, the angriest we've seen Naruto's was when he was trying to stop Sasuke from leaving the village. If all he needed to be able to use so much of the Kyuubi's power was anger then we would have seen more than one tail at that point, so I think there is something else that dictates the number of tails that are formed.

    I also find it very interesting that Naruto went four tails against Jiraiya, again if his anger is the trigger what could Jiraiya have ever done to make Naruto that angry, when they were just training. To go four tails Naruto has to become completely irrational, even against Oro and Kabuto they had to taunt and provoke him just for him to go that far and he already hated them so much.

    So there is another reason why Naruto can only go four tails now and I suppose whatever that reason is, it is also why he wasn't able to go beyond one before.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Abdula
    I also think that there is some other reason why Naruto is suddenly able to use that much of the Kyuubi's power, anger alone can't be the trigger. If you think about it, the angriest we've seen Naruto's was when he was trying to stop Sasuke from leaving the village. If all he needed to be able to use so much of the Kyuubi's power was anger then we would have seen more than one tail at that point, so I think there is something else that dictates the number of tails that are formed.

    I also find it very interesting that Naruto went four tails against Jiraiya, again if his anger is the trigger what could Jiraiya have ever done to make Naruto that angry, when they were just training. To go four tails Naruto has to become completely irrational, even against Oro and Kabuto they had to taunt and provoke him just for him to go that far and he already hated them so much.

    So there is another reason why Naruto can only go four tails now and I suppose whatever that reason is, it is also why he wasn't able to go beyond one before.
    Jiraiya said the Fourth's seal is weakening. He probably can't go beyond four tails now because the seal doesn't allow it to. Before, two tails was max. That's why they anticipate eventually nine tails will form.

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    I've previously stated why I don't believe the seal to be breaking to be the case and there is alot to justify that opinion. In any case even if the seal were merely breaking that wouldn't any sense because to go four tails Naruto had to travel within the seal not the Kyuubi coming out.

    Secondly, even if the Kyuubi's chakra escapes the seal, the seal allows Naruto to have acces to and use it. So again him going four tails really isn't any proof that the seal is "breaking" because it was stated early on that the seal was designed so that Naruto would be able to use the Kyuubi's power he just isn't able to control it yet.

    So the seal is supposed to allow Naruto to use the Kyuubi's power much like how Gaara was able to use Shukaku's power, so even if all nine tails were to form that is the way it was designed to work. So like I said Naruto going berserker is just because he can't control the power yet.

    My rebuttal is this, as was said before even since Naruto was a kid he had the Kyuubi in him and unknowingly was able to use the Kyuubi's power. He became able to directly and consciously access the Kyuubi's power because of his training as a ninja. Normal people aren't able to use or control their chakra because they aren't trained to do so as ninjas are. Naruto became able to actively use the Kyuubi's power after he became a ninja because it was only then that his body was able to "use" chakra.

    As he grew and progressed as a Ninja he became able to use more and more of the Kyuubi's chakra and that I feel is directly due to his capacity increasing as he ages and becomes stronger thus he would then be able to use more and more of the Kyuubi's chakra.

    Still I feel there is more to it than this but I refuse to believe that its as simple as the seal is breaking.
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    I'm still wondering what jiraiya has taught naruto after training him for three years. Aside from going even more out of control with the whole four tails thing, there hasn't been anything new in regards to his skills.

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    True but I don't think you can blame Jiraiya for that. I couldn't imagine what it must have been like to have to try and train someone like Naruto.
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    Well, Naruto has proved he can learn new shit very quickly when its thematically convenient. i. e. Shadow Clone and Rasengan.
    Quote Originally Posted by Abdula
    I also find it very interesting that Naruto went four tails against Jiraiya, again if his anger is the trigger what could Jiraiya have ever done to make Naruto that angry, when they were just training. To go four tails Naruto has to become completely irrational, even against Oro and Kabuto they had to taunt and provoke him just for him to go that far and he already hated them so much.
    I was wondering that too. Then I figured he just said out loud the kinds of things Naruto is thinking about when he flips out anyway. "You're too weak. Sasuke left because you were too weak to stop him. He wouldn't listen to you because you're pathetic. Nobodies ever going to respect a loser like you." etc etc.

    In fact, it was probably pretty satisfying right up to the point the Kyuubi took a chunk out of his chest.

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    Jiraiya is not that kind of person even when he was training Naruto to use the Kyuubi's chakra before he didn't do things like that. Even if he did it would be in the course of training and even Naruto wouldn't respond to stuff like that and it was still just training not like a battle against Oro.
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    I should have anticipated something like this but i still find it laughable that Naruto can't put 2 and 2 together and realize that he caused it, im sure Jiraiya told him what happened when he achieved 4 tails in training and the destruction he caused. But yeah I hope in the next fight he demonstrates 2 1/2 years of training with a sannin...moron.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Abdula
    Jiraiya is not that kind of person even when he was training Naruto to use the Kyuubi's chakra before he didn't do things like that. Even if he did it would be in the course of training and even Naruto wouldn't respond to stuff like that and it was still just training not like a battle against Oro.
    You must know Jiraiya and Naruto personally?

    It's called psychology. Umm... Jiraiya tried to kill Naruto during that training with the Kyuubi's chakra. He put him in a life-threatening situation.

    We haven't even learned much about Jiraiya yet, but you claim that he would never do such things.
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    So, the very first episode part is near ? I mean, they're problaby heading for Orochimaru's hideout, no ?
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    Since they didn't manage to capture the spy for questioning, and they managed to lose a team member, yeah, I imagine they don't have much choice but to go after them.

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    I am not sure if this will be considered a spoiler or not, but from what I can remember from the manga there is still a LONG way to go before we reach the teaser in the first Naruto Shippuuden ep.

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    Lol, I would think that would be a spoiler, SPOILER?: but since you're wrong I suspect it's okay.

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