Geez, Narutofan has is before Gotwoot... We're slacking.
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EDIT: Translation from Mangahelpers
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Geez, Narutofan has is before Gotwoot... We're slacking.
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EDIT: Translation from Mangahelpers
Scanlation
Last edited by Sidnne; Sat, 01-19-2008 at 12:29 AM.
Found in leafninja forums...
Source: http://s4.invisionfree.com/LeafNinja...showtopic=9921Sasuke's recollection
Itachi (younger days): Inside the Nanga Temple's hall... underneath the seventh tatami mat from the right rear, you can find the secret hiding place of the clan. In this place, you can find the answer to the reason behind the existence of the clan's doujutsu....the true secret is recorded within. Once you have awaken your eyes, including myself, there will be three users of the Mangekyou Sharingan. For that to happen...kuku, it is a worthwhile reason to let you live.
Returning to present
Sasuke: Answer my question! Until you do so, the pain on your chest shall continue...
Itachi: ...did you miss my vital points on purpose...
Sasuke: Three persons...the other Sharingan user is...which person from the Uchiha clan?
Itachi: ...Why...are you concerned with such a matter?
Sasuke: After you, he's the next person I will kill...that's all.
Itachi: kill?
Sasuke: You spoke of the existence of another person during the massacre of the clan....The Uchiha which you did not kill...that person is therefore the person assisting you. No matter how good you are, it is not possible for you to finish off the police squad by yourself.
Itachi: ...so you've noticed.
Sasuke: Who's that person?
Itachi: Uchiha Madara
Orochimaru's snake: The doujutsu power has a more sinister chakra than mine...same as Uchiha Madara of the past...
Returning to present
Itachi: One of the founders of Konohagakure...the first man who had awaken the Mangekyou Sharingan.
Sasuke: Founder? If it's that Madara you're referring to, he's supposed to be dead. Are you making fun of me?!
Itachi: ...Madara is still alive. To believe it or not, it's up to you.
Sasuke: Stop the bullshit!
Itachi: ...every human being relies on and is bounded by his knowledge and experience to live. This is what we call "reality". However, knowledge and experience are ambiguous, thus reality can become illusion. Is it not possible to think that, all human beings are living in their assumptions?
Sasuke: What are you trying to say exactly?
Itachi: Hmph... That "Madara is dead" is what you choose to assume. Just like how you chose to assume that I am a nice big brother to you in the past.
Sasuke reflects on the past when he played with Itachi.
Picture of the younger Itachi.
Itachi: The reason why I acted as the ideal brother to you... is to measure your "capacity"...
Returning to present
Sasuke: What happened that night... I could only think of it as an illusion when I was younger. That I was inside a terrible genjutsu... that's what I thought. But what was that?! It was clearly the reality!!
Following that, he Chidori from the back!
The face of the real (?) Itachi sitting at the back hit the side wall.
Sasuke: My eyes now are different from the past! I can see through genjutsu with my Sharingan!
Itachi: Hmph... you always use strong words, as usual. I take your words for it this time
The Itachi that was stabbed by Sasuke's katana disappeared.
Sasuke drew back the Chidori facing Itachi.
Itachi: ...however...Sasuke...you still do not possess the same eyes as me it seems
Recollections
(Young) Itachi: And then you come forth to me bearing the same "eyes"
Sasuke: Hmph...then, you should use Mangekyou Sharingan and try to kill me! Or am I too much for you to measure your "capacity" now?
Itachi: Such great confidence...
Zetsu watches without letting slip of his presence.
Happy Zetsu: Both of them haven't been moving since the beginning.
Creepy Zetsu: That's because they are exchanging with genjutsu
Itachi: Mangekyou Sharingan...this eye is special...
Sasuke: ...?
Itachi: From the moment the eyes are awaken, it moves towards the darkness. The more you use it, it gets sealed
Sasuke: What do you mean?
Itachi: Mangekyou will lose the light eventually
Sasuke: Going blind...that is the price to pay for the power to control the Kyuubi right?
Itachi: Hmph...seems like you have listened to my words and went to read the stone board at the gathering place
Sasuke: Madara... what in the world is he?
Itachi: He was the first man to clutch the Kyuubi in his arms, my accomplice, my mentor and the indestructible man. And the only man to have exposed one more secret to the Mangekyou Sharingan. This person is Uchiha Madara.
Thoughts:
So the Mangekyou DOES make you blind...
I like how they explained it as "lose the light" Makes it seem better. Might actually explain the black fire from Itachi's MS too!
assertnfailure (7:40:03 PM): dude....your posts are a bunch of nonsense
Gah.... So after all this time we finally hear of this "other person" during the massacre of the Uchiha clan.
Still, we haven't found out why they had to massacre the clan.
I still think that Itachi was trying to test his powers to see if he could conceivably take on Madara.Originally Posted by Id3aLiStiC
assertnfailure (7:40:03 PM): dude....your posts are a bunch of nonsense
Not much of a surprise here. Basically, we had two theories confirmed: Madara was responsible for the death of the Uchiha clan, and the Mangekyou Sharingan does cause the user to go blind.
The part I liked best about this chapter was when Zetsu was watching them and the entire fight was genjutsu.
For anyone wondering the scanlated release is out.
Nice chapter. I want to know what the final secret is. I am wondering if it's immortality? That would further add to why Oro wanted Sasuke's body, and explain why Madara is still alive, or it could be something as simple (and already stated) as you can control the nine-tails (and whatever other bijjuu or whatever they're called). That could also explain how he caught that one water one (was it the four tails? I cannot remember) when it looked like he was loosing. He could had just started controlling it.
I guess this also means; if Madara controlled the nine-tails "like a pet" he was the one who let it loose on the village when the fourth sealed it.
Last edited by joker-kun; Sat, 01-19-2008 at 12:54 AM.
[21:48] * DO furiously masturbates to #gotwoot
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Wow this chapter was quite pointless it contained absolutely nothing we didn't already know at this point or at the very least things that were heavily hinted at.
First I wouldn't say its been confirmed that the Mangekyou makes you go blind. It simply corrupts you making you fall further into darkness. That could have several meanings and while blindness is one that could possibly be true I really doubt Mandara is blind or unable to use the Mangekyou and considering how long he has been using it the concept of it simply making you go blind just seems wrong.
Mandara sending the 9 tails against the leaf as well as killing the Uchiha clan with Itachi was also stuff that we should have known by now its been hinted at over and over. Also same goes for Mangekyou being able to control the 9-tails to some extent there is no other reason for him to have known Mandara by name and to have commented on Sasuke's eye's before like he did.
I'm looking forward to next weeks but expecially after such a long wait I was expecting a bit more from this weeks chapter then we seemed to get. That though is likely my fault.
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I do think he meant blindness when he said "the kaleidoscope loses its light" ...didn't Kakashi allude to that before?
Yeah, Kakashi did say something like that before.
Although, this arises new questions as Jokerness and DDBen mentioned.
this kind of leads to more questions about the main purpose of akatsuke. I wonder if madara is controlling the whole operation, and itachi is somehow his student, then what exactly are they really trying to accomplish? Pein seems to have his own agenda, and itachi sounds like madara is trying to resurrect himself. I was kind of lost on this chapter. Hopefully next week there will more action, or at least more answers.
Awesome chapter. I've always been wondering what exactly Itachi wanted Sasuke to find, and this chapter provides the answer and also some proof to the whole blindness thing.
"Our hearts are full of memories but not all of them reflect the truth. The heart isn't a recording device. Even important memories change with time. They warp or fade, leaving us with but a shadow of what we hoped to remember." 天の道を行き、全てを司る。これは僕の世界。
It also puts to rest the fact that Uchiha Madara was tobi. >:O Now we know Obito=Tobi!
Err... how? We just got told that Madara is still alive and you think the only explaination for a mysterious Sharingan user is not infact Madara, who is alive, but a long dead Uchiha of whom we have no reason to belive is alive?
Wow i bet everybody who ever got flamed for saying MS causes blindness is jumping up and down for this chapter. I guess you dont have to "read between the lines" on kishi's work its pretty straight forward. Well moving on i guess tobi + itachi>da police.
Yeah....kind of shocking....
I guess that means Kakashi will be going blind as well.
Itachi reiterating that Sasuke can't fight him until he has MS pretty much suggests this fight will be over in the next chapter, and Itachi won't die just yet.
10/4/04 - 8/20/07
Though Kakakashi still has one normal eye. So he might go blind with his sharingan but that really wouldn't affect him that much in normal life. This means Madara should be long blind now though. Maybe that's why Sasuke is being measured actually, to take his eyes when he's ready
So is the final secret about the mangekyou that you can control kyuubi with it or is there yet another thing the sharingan can do and we'll have to wait about for ages?
Perhaps, but in that case any of them could replace their worn-out sharingans with regular eyes, since transplants appear to be relatively simple in the ninja world.Though Kakakashi still has one normal eye. So he might go blind with his sharingan but that really wouldn't affect him that much in normal life. This means Madara should be long blind now though. Maybe that's why Sasuke is being measured actually, to take his eyes when he's ready
10/4/04 - 8/20/07
But if that were the case, then why wipe out the entire Uchiha clan except for Sasuke? If their intentions were to take Sasuke's sharingan, then they will be out of sharingan eyes after that. They have eliminated their source of "organ donors".Though Kakakashi still has one normal eye. So he might go blind with his sharingan but that really wouldn't affect him that much in normal life. This means Madara should be long blind now though. Maybe that's why Sasuke is being measured actually, to take his eyes when he's ready
I don't believe the Uchiha's were wiped-out to test any "capacity", not if Madara and Itachi were working together. It's more likely they fear the Uchiha's and wiping them out was to preemptively eliminate any future threat to their true plans.
They must have some sinister plot in store for Sasuke, hopefully we'll find out what it is soon.
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