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    http://www.imdb.com/video/imdb/vi3424453401/

    Found this while browsing imdb. New trailor.

    I don't know when the last time I've been so excited about a movie coming out ( even if it does fail ) This trailor goes a little further into some plot points of the movie. only 2 more months ^^

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    Is this the same one you linked to?
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I_hIIDEQY3w

    Man, but I wish they wouldn't have spoiled some of the plot points in the series.

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    I didn't realize they were releasing it on a Thursday. I'm almost at odds with the PG-13 rating, just like I was with the last Die Hard movie. I know it's so they can whore out the movie to a wider audience and not worry about kids paying for another movie only to sneak into terminator. Today's PG-13 is a far cry from the PG-13 of 10 years ago, but it still could result in stuff being cut from the movie so that it makes the rating.

    I'm going to the midnight showing next wednesday.

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    Fuckin bastards cutting Moon Bloodgood topless to get PG-13... grrr
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    I saw the midnight showing last night... which is why I feel like crap right now because I'm running on 3 hours of sleep.

    I'm going to wait for others to see it before discussing. I think I went into it with my expectations just unreasonably high. An interesting note, my wife said she read somewhere that Bale was originally cast to play Marcus Wright's Charactor, and that guy was cast to play John Conner... but the dark knight gets what he wants !

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    Quote Originally Posted by itadakimasu
    I think I went into it with my expectations just unreasonably high.
    Naw, man. It was just kinda bad.

    Right from the get-go I couldn't accept Christian Bale as John Connor. There was no emotion behind anything he did. It's as if he was completely riding on past actors' depictions of John Connor. He just jumps into the role, puts on a tough-guy voice, and traipses around. He could have easily been "Military General Number 3" in the credits and the script would have remained intact. I would estimate the number of lines he had in this movie didn't even break 50. He added absolutely nothing to the role.

    The CG was terribly integrated with the live-action. There were several moments during the first 30 minutes where I thought I was playing Gears of War. Edit: Actually there was ONE CG moment that was incredible. You'll know which one I'm talking about.

    The beginning was also edited really choppily. There was little introduction to the situation, and few examples of the "human condition" the story relied so heavily upon. In fact, every other human character that wasn't part of the main cast were complete douchebags. The story was interesting for a generic action movie (and I really liked the new Terminator), but other than that, the movie did nothing but take a very long time to accomplish a simple task: The acquisition of Kyle Reese.

    Not surprisingly, I felt absolutely nothing for any character aside from Sarah Connor. Even in cassette tape form she was a more human character than everyone else.

    This was a generic action movie. Really similar to T3. Maybe I'm riding too hard on my love of T2, because this wasn't terrible, but it was just pretty generic.
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    I read a review where they guy was blasting the way they marketed the movie because it gave away too much of the plot.

    You're right xan.. from the last movie to this one I didn't really feel much connection to the charactors either.

    I don't see myself going to the midnight showing for Terminator 5 when it comes out in 2011 of 2012.

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    I live in Tucson, where they filmed some of the movie on the Air Force base here. I volunteered for something and not knowing what it was, but everyone was so hyped telling me im driving around a Laker girl, a girl from Maxim. Finally i looked up the name they gave me Korinna something and what do you know, it was the girl in Pathfinder and the upcoming Terminator. She was Mundane in real life, still hot don't get me wrong. Drove her to the A-10 which she pilots in the movie and then to the virtual flight simulator so she can act like shes flying it.

    Sorry for this late post, meant to post it last year when she was here but i was tasked to do convoys in the sandbox.
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    I just saw this. I thought it was alright, nothing special or amazing but entertaining.

    The action scenes were really good, but the story was just so generic and run of the mill. And all the trailers, previews, reviews etc spoiled way too much; I heard ages in advance that Marcus is actually a Terminator and doesn't know it, it would have been nice to not know and have to figure it out (although it would have been pretty obvious).

    It had so many plot holes. Like, why were Skynet so ok with attacking Marcus at first, but later on they were able to detect he was one of them? Was it because some of his parts were showing?

    And what was the major importance of destroying that one Skynet building, despite the fact that thousands of humans were in there? Like the closing statement said "we have won this battle but not the war, Skynet still has a strong global network". So why not rescue the prisoners before blowing it up? Obviously there's many buildings all over the world. Maybe because it's a Terminator factory? Who knows.

    I liked the way they did the first T-800 towards the end, they even kept the same haircut, it was good. I wonder if he got royalties.

    My post sounds negative but I did like the movie. I went in there with low expectations and I got a solid but forgettable action film which doesn't really stand up to movies 1 and 2 (I've erased 3 from my memory) but in the end I was pretty happy due to the mindless entertainment.

    Oh, and Moon Bloodgood is pretty hot for a woman in her mid 30s
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    I've liked Bale ever since i first saw Equilibrium (or in some cases its called Cubic, like wtf?).
    He's also awesome as the new Batman.

    Unfortunately, he sucked balls in this movie, seriously, hes a good actor but sooo wrong as John Connor.. now Marcus on the other hand, he was fucking awesome, best character in the movie by far, sure u kinda knew he was a cyborg(or going to become one) right from the start because of the whole scene in the beginning, where he was talking with the doctor.

    Moon Bloodgood did a fine job aswell, the rest of the cast was kinda meh, 90% of them didnt even have enough screentime for me to give a crap about em -.-

    Also, whats the deal with the kid "Star", i got the feeling she was "special" in some way but they didnt give any info at all about her..

    And i was truly impressed by the T-800 towards the end when they revealed him, damn good job there.

    Overall good action movie, but as T-3 did lack the "Terminator Feeling", so does this.
    its still way better than T-3 though ^^
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    I read this a while back and from what i remember, the movie was supposed to be about Marcus with Connor making a couple of appearances as a background character. Christian Bale was originally offered the role of Marcus but he insisted that he wanted to play Connor, so the writers had to rewrite to script to make make Connor more prominent.

    Therefore, I didn't expect much from his role. You can't blame Christian Bale for doing a bad job playing a character that was slapped together at the last minute.

    Anyways, I still enjoyed this movie. Alot of people disliked it because there seemed to be a huge disconnect between this one and the first 3, but you have to understand that this movie is set in a post apocalyptic period. It was supposed to feel very different. I went in expecting nothing more than a simple high paced action movie, and I was satisfied.

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    Finally saw this movie and man it was terrible. I got goosebumps from the opening, but it was all downhill from there. It wasn't just the plot and horrible editing that made it bad. The acting was bad, and there were so many cheesy elements that I had to roll my eyes at. It felt like Matrix part 2 and 3, like more of the same, but over the top and corny. Just like in the Matrix, T4's story is more about the silly and obnoxious humans and less about the cool machines.

    One aspect that really annoyed me is how expansive and elaborate the human resistance network was. They had a lot more resources at their disposal than I expected for a ragtag resistance that is the last hope of mankind, particularly as they were depicted in the previous movies.

    In case anyone cares, the same guy is on board to direct T5. Should go straight to DVD.


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    xD

    Good God, there's going to be another one?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Testarossa Autodrive
    xD

    Good God, there's going to be another one?
    They announced that there'll be a new trilogy continuing from, but separate to, the first three movies.

    Feels like Star Wars doesn't it? Except I actually enjoyed Phantom Menace, unlike T4.

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    I think James Cameron was in charge for T3 and that didn't turn out too well. The director for T4 was MCG, who directed some of the early great episodes of the tv show Chuck, among several other movies and shows. Not sure how T4 went so bad. Hoping he can pull it together for T5.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Animeniax
    I think James Cameron was in charge for T3 and that didn't turn out too well. The director for T4 was MCG, who directed some of the early great episodes of the tv show Chuck, among several other movies and shows. Not sure how T4 went so bad. Hoping he can pull it together for T5.
    James Cameron had absolutely no creative control of T3, and MCG directed Charlies Angels, and now this piece of crap.

    If this movie didn't have John Connor, it would have been a decent made-for-TV movie set in the Terminator universe. Christian Bale's inclusion turned it into this...mess.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Animeniax
    One aspect that really annoyed me is how expansive and elaborate the human resistance network was. They had a lot more resources at their disposal than I expected for a ragtag resistance that is the last hope of mankind, particularly as they were depicted in the previous movies.

    In case anyone cares, the same guy is on board to direct T5. Should go straight to DVD.
    This movie took place earlier in time than the flashbacks from the other movies. Reese is just a boy, so there's another 10+ years to get caught up the the flashbacks/forwards from Terminator 1-3.

    So, there is plenty of time for them to be brought closer to extinction.

    I am for damn sure not going to goto the theater @ midnight for T5 like I did w\ this crappy movie. This was probably the biggest let down of all time because I was so excited for the movie and it just didn't deliver at all.

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    I was really excited about the concept and when I saw the trailer, I had a bit of hope that it would at least be better than T3, but it was rather disappointing. This movie had so much potential and yet it was just a huge let down for the most part.

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    I thought the movie was a sure hit with Bale as Connor, but it sounds more like his inclusion is what contributed to the film's failure if they had to re-write the script.

    Even so, the story twist of the Marcus character was fairly easy to guess and hard to accept, regardless of who was playing the character. I think a movie based on the Terminator universe can stand on its own without gimmicky story twists.


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    Well the CGI wasn't bad at all. Some of the crashes and action scene were so wtf that I actually flinched. Then I opened my mouth in surprise and half hid my face with my hands. Okay I'm a wussy.

    The Avatar guy is hot, I wanted to reach through the screen and hide him in my pocket (thus ruin the storyline, killing everyone he could have saved lol oops). His acting was great, he's sooo good at expressing his emotions so it draws me in to whatever he has to say so I think it's important. Bale was meh to me, I could feel like I could tell he was just a guy acting and I kept thinking about camaras all around him as well as the guy on the sidelines who was probably plotting his murder because of the way he was treated. I'll just ignore evaluating the other actors because I'm no expert anyway and leave it at 'they sucked'. Okay that's not fair I really liked the fight club girl but I never saw her again and probably fell asleep before I could even find out who the heck she was.

    About halfway through the movie I was suddenly VERY sleepy though (prolly cuz I started it at 3 am) so I ended up curling up on a bed and enjoying a nice sleep for the remainder of the movie.

    The only REAL problem I had in this movie was the dialogue and pretty much the plot, at some points it was so stupid and predictable that I just sighed at it. I can't remember exactly what parts pissed me off but I remember none of the characters having ANYTHING interesting to say at all, even using really cliche retarded phrases for when they were determined to do something. And then really stupid crap was just stuffed in for no apparent reason at all, like the topless scene with the girl where NOTHING HAPPENED AT ALL lololol. But then again the Avatar guy WORKED those lines while they just fell limply from the other actors lips as if they knew it was lame but 'Hey I ought to act out the emotions anyway this could be my big break." /stops rambling and goes back to sleep

    Oh I'd like to mention I've never seen any other Terminator movie and probably never will at this point, though the trailer was pretty lulzy so I'm sure they're great movies.
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