Macross Frontier

[NeoBear]

ya know i don,t really understand why everyone seems to want to tie Zero in with Frontier from a time line stand point?

i certainly understand that they are going to use some of the (lore) from zero but i mean zero does not seem like it can happen in the what i would think is the normal macross time line. in the first macross it was explained that when the macross ship was found it was our first contact with aliens it was also why VF's were created in the first place and also the frist time we saw zentradi

however in zero there wear no zentradi and the the VF's seem to have just been introduced with the enemy flying them as well also there was no Macross'?

so zero would have had to taken place be for or after Macross but in either case it would not work as far as i can tell. the way i see it zero was just a side story with theme's used from the macross lore.

so while i have no problum with them pulling lore from macross i don,t understand how they would try to fit it into the Frontier time line im interested in seeing how they pull it off in the next episode.

[GurrenLagann]

ya know i don,t really understand why everyone seems to want to tie Zero in with Frontier from a time line stand point?

i certainly understand that they are going to use some of the (lore) from zero but i mean zero does not seem like it can happen in the what i would think is the normal macross time line. in the first macross it was explained that when the macross ship was found it was our first contact with aliens it was also why VF's were created in the first place and also the frist time we saw zentradi

however in zero there wear no zentradi and the the VF's seem to have just been introduced with the enemy flying them as well also there was no Macross'?

so zero would have had to taken place be for or after Macross but in either case it would not work as far as i can tell. the way i see it zero was just a side story with theme's used from the macross lore.

so while i have no problum with them pulling lore from macross i don,t understand how they would try to fit it into the Frontier time line im interested in seeing how they pull it off in the next episode.

Zero was the start of Macross, of course there won't be any zentran or meltran that happens a year later. Frontier time line takes about 50Years, you make it sound as if wasn't possible to add to frontie, how hard is it to understand that they are connecting Zero to Macross Frontier >_>;.

The Vf27S pilot comes from the macross galaxy fleet,I'm thinking that He's taking orders from Grace, but this is only my assumption....

[NeoBear]

Zero was the start of Macross, of course there won't be any zentran or meltran that happens a year later. Frontier time line takes about 50Years, you make it sound as if wasn't possible to add to frontie, how hard is it to understand that they are connecting Zero to Macross Frontier >_>;.

The Vf27S pilot comes from the macross galaxy fleet,I'm thinking that He's taking orders from Grace, but this is only my assumption....

...how do you figure zero is the start of macross did you watch the original macross?

so lets say that zero was the start why in the original do they say the world was basicaly in a slump then bam this shit (the macross) drops outta the sky and the world comes togeather to study it further more after reserching the Macross it was learned that there was a possibility of a race of giants wich is why VFs were created in the first place.

if zero is the start why did they have VFs and why did the enemy have them and why wear there no mention of zentradie ect ect it seems pretty clear to me without having to think about it that Macross was the start and zero was just a side story (OAV)

if you dont agree thats ok but have a look at
http://macross.anime.net/wiki/Main_Page

theres plenty of info on time lines reading a bit and + the fact that i was there back in day (im pretty old ya know =/) it just would not make sense for zero to be first if you want to tie it in ok but first how the hell do you get VFs without the damn ship droping outta the sky witch happened in MACROSS!!!! >.<

[David75]

What amazes me is that that Pink Fighter looses a leg and possibly a full arm (or at least shoulder) and is still able to transform back from mecha to plane and speed away from the fight as if it was nothing.

The other strange thing is that Alto is able to be on a higher level than him when it seems his fighting suit is so superior. You could say it was a way of buying time and occupy Alto and Michel so that the mission is completed: Klan, Alto and Michel do not get anything from that ship.

Michael, Mickael or Michel? Well Alto used Michel and some other pronounciation.
It seems clear that Michel (pronounciation around Me-Shell) is from a french background, so the pronounciation should be that one. Also he is a seducer, stereotype for french young guys. In the same train of thought I wonder if anything sexual happened beetween him and Klan... Or if he did, from that ep, it was in gigantic form... lucky guy but they're more like childhood friends with klan having a crush on him (love wise of course... or he'd be dead...) and him never going out with her.

And yes, Vajra could be some experiment that didn't go as planned...

[KrayZ33]

theres plenty of info on time lines reading a bit and + the fact that i was there back in day (im pretty old ya know =/) it just would not make sense for zero to be first if you want to tie it in ok but first how the hell do you get VFs without the damn ship droping outta the sky witch happened in MACROSS!!!! >.<

The Super Dimension Fortress Macross -> Chronology 1999-2012
Macross Zero -> Chronology 2008 (and @ the beginning July 1999)
Macross Frontier -> Chronology 2059

Macross zero was set in the last year of the war between the UN Spacy and the Anti-UN separatist forces

But since the spaceship dropped in 1999 (shin says that a second sun has risen) it's very likely that they reasearched it and tried to rebuild the aircraft...

wikipedia says this:
In 1999, a city-sized alien spacecraft crashes on Earth and over the course of 10 years the humans reverse-engineered the technology and rebuilt the spacecraft. It is completed just before a fleet of Zentradi warships arrive on the hunt for the ship which belongs to their enemy, the Supervision Army (See Protodeviln)

so Zero plays one year Before the war against the Zentradi
I don't know when the actual plot of SDF-macross started. but I think it's focussed on the war against the giant race.. so ya macross zero is chronology the oldest of the macross series.

Another fact to support this theory is that Shin is a Pilot of a VF-0 and the one of SDF-Macross is a Pilot of a VF-1S (as far as I know the VF-1 was only a test-unit at first but got mass-produced later because of its success)

All in all... macross zero does play before the main-plot of SDF-Macross

we got to know in macross zero that the spaceship dropped alrdy (see intro sequence)
So the spaceship did not only drop in SDF-Macross but in Macross-Zero too.

edit: I'm repeating myself :/

[GurrenLagann]

I wonder if we will see the Purple 1 pilot anymore on Frontier. After all, they now have video footage of the mecha, so he shouldn't be able to get anywhere near it without being shot at. I can't imagine they would let a recognized enemy to get near, least of all dock. Perhaps he will keep his fighter somewhere else and just travel there by using a common shuttle.

VF27 has a stealth system far more advance than anything Frontier can detect

ow do you figure zero is the start of macross did you watch the original macross?

so lets say that zero was the start why in the original do they say the world was basicaly in a slump then bam this shit (the macross) drops outta the sky and the world comes togeather to study it further more after reserching the Macross it was learned that there was a possibility of a race of giants wich is why VFs were created in the first place.

if zero is the start why did they have VFs and why did the enemy have them and why wear there no mention of zentradie ect ect it seems pretty clear to me without having to think about it that Macross was the start and zero was just a side story (OAV)

Macross Zero Doesnt take place in 1999 it takes place about 10 years later 2008 The Zentran ship already fell on earth, the Nuke Shinn saw when he was a kid was the Zentran ship falling on earth, this started the UN wars, the prototype VF-0 are supposed to be the first VF ever but Overtechnology got leaked leading to the development of the SV-51 by the Anti-UN faction, the roll out the SV-51 Faster than the UN thought, the UN counters with the VF0 given to Shinn and co. one year later, the original Macross Takes place 2009. It all fits in...

What amazes me is that that Pink Fighter looses a leg and possibly a full arm (or at least shoulder) and is still able to transform back from mecha to plane and speed away from the fight as if it was nothing.

The other strange thing is that Alto is able to be on a higher level than him when it seems his fighting suit is so superior. You could say it was a way of buying time and occupy Alto and Michel so that the mission is completed: Klan, Alto and Michel do not get anything from that ship.

Brera, the pilot of the VF27 got too cocky thats why he got his ass handed down to him

[Kraco]

VF27 has a stealth system far more advance than anything Frontier can detect

I thought this Frontier series was placed farthest in the future of the Macrosses. But then again, the only other Macross I've seen is Zero, so I don't really know anything.

[KrayZ33]

I thought this Frontier series was placed farthest in the future of the Macrosses. But then again, the only other Macross I've seen is Zero, so I don't really know anything.

It's the second farthest of Macross...the OAV-series SDF-Macross II plays ~ 2080 (?)

but I don't know where he got that information, because its the first time I've seen the VF27

[David75]

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