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    Quote Originally Posted by depthcharge
    Would you want to have the Varja assimilated just like the Zentradi?

    I wonder why they did not remove the CNS/brain of the Varja they possesed?
    Unless you were to control 100% of it's every movement, you'd want to give it some sort of a brain. Things like life support and basic movement and co-ordination can be controlled using a very small brain, which is probably the case. You just don't give it any higher intellect.

    That way, you can give it an order, like "fight", without telling it exactly "how" to fight.

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    I'd think that's exactly why they want the Varja the way they are (whoever "they" are...)

    The Zentradi betrayed their masters in the last television series. With the Varja being remote, mindless killing machines, you don't get that problem. They don't care. There isn't anything to assimilate into society, no culture for them to be attracted to.

    They're more machines than living beings, as someone said...just like the Zerg.

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    I don't mean to bring the discussion off-topic or anything but I wanted to know if I have to watch any of the previous Macross series to understand what's going on in Frontier? On ANN it said its a direct sequel to the first Macross series and Macross 7. I was browsing the thread and I saw Munsu's chronological post with the links and most of you guys said to stay away from Macross 7. So is it necessary to watch these two and any of the others to understand the story in this one?
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    Wikipedia is your friend if you want to know more. Just read posts here they gave me much of knowledge about the series or post you question. I saw only chunks of first Macross. I think all you need to know to just jump in, is who are Zontradi are and little about their history.


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    Quote Originally Posted by NM
    I don't mean to bring the discussion off-topic or anything but I wanted to know if I have to watch any of the previous Macross series to understand what's going on in Frontier? On ANN it said its a direct sequel to the first Macross series and Macross 7. I was browsing the thread and I saw Munsu's chronological post with the links and most of you guys said to stay away from Macross 7. So is it necessary to watch these two and any of the others to understand the story in this one?
    there is nothing you NEED to know... you get a small explanation at the beginning

    if you don't know anything from macross 7 (edit: oh I thought the original series IS macross 7 :P sry) then it'll be just a story similiar to battlestar galactica or Freespace
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    You don't need to know anything from Macross 7. Ugh.

    Most of the references in the series are either to the original series (songs, specific scenes, Chinese restaurants, etc) or Macross Plus (certain parts of the dialogue, some the concert parts, etc). You're not missing anything though, just a few inside jokes and references for those viewers.

    As the others said, as long as you have a basic understanding of who the Zentraedi are and why they are allied with humans now (which you can get from the first five minutes of episode 1 or my and others' posts in this thread) you're all set.

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    Sounds good to me then! Guess I'll jump right into Frontier. Thanks again for the assistance guys!
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    As for Frontier, the Raw for episode 7 is available:

    1440 x 1080
    1280 x 720
    AVI

    After the Subbed version come out i would recommend for peoples to go back and watch the 1440x1080 version because this episode is simply beautiful.

    Edit: Is it against the rules to post raw? i checked and thought it only apply to discussion of raw contents. The only reason i posted the raw was because the subbed is late this week and they usually do not release 1440x1080 version and there are peoples who might want it. I was wondering since i got neg rep for this post and I'll remove the link if needed.
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    oh man this being late this week is like a kick in the sack i know there has gotta be some awsome action in this episode =(
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dark Dragon
    As for Frontier, the Raw for episode 7 is available:

    1440 x 1080
    1280 x 720
    AVI

    After the Subbed version come out i would recommend for peoples to go back and watch the 1440x1080 version because this episode is simply beautiful.

    Edit: Is it against the rules to post raw? i checked and thought it only apply to discussion of raw contents. The only reason i posted the raw was because the subbed is late this week and they usually do not release 1440x1080 version and there are peoples who might want it. I was wondering since i got neg rep for this post and I'll remove the link if needed.
    Raw posting itself isn't against the rules, but discussing it can be considered so, since most people here, I dare say, watch subbed releases, and is considered spoiling.

    Starting new threads in the Series En Fuego section with a raw is against the rules, however.
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    I'm @ EP4 right now. Will have to stop, middle of the night here, work to come...

    I think I like it, I was interrested in robotech I've seen when I was young... didn't understand much of it at the time, was interrested in dogfights, didn't understand how it was technically possible to have a plane/robot in the same machine.

    I like the Lancia Delta Integrale Cameo (Main officer's car)
    The scene were Ranka accidentaly seats on the "joy"stick was mean...
    There's a little french note by sheryl, for once orthograph and grammar were correct in an anime. Syntax was ok too, but an informal note as this one should have been a tad shorter. I know, I ask for too much.

    Regarding the Vajra, I think they are not lured by ranka's singing, nor they are for sheryl's, because both of them sing in times when the Vajras don't come...
    To me, it's more when Sheryl and Ranka are in close proximity. Except maybe for ep 1.
    Or there's something related to joy or love emotions.

    Or for some reason sheryl or ranka have some beacon thinkg in them with an activation process we're not aware of.

    Fight scenes are okay, hard to follow with subs (even more so when you have the fight, one song subbed and subs...)

    Will continue watching this.
    Oh and the giant alien is hot... I can imagine what could be done with such a great woman Sorry, my mind got sidetracked.

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    Not so sure if it is legitimate yet, but:

    [gg]​_Macross​_Frontier​_-​_07​_[7B8F0A73].mkv

    EDIT: It is indeed legit, and probably better than Gattai's subs, which are out as well. If you're into mediocre upscaled HD, [Gattai] Macross Frontier - 07 [1280x720 h264] (Not Gattai's fault, the broadcasters for not giving us real HD).

    Either way, this episode was eye candy and a half. Nice treatment for the ears too. Perfect sensory overload. Reminds me time and time again why Macross will always be better than Gundam for me. Fancy flying from pilots with actual skills instead of overpowered hardware. Though, we did get a mysterious stranger just like that, who knows Ranka's song...

    Aside from that, loved the Konig Monster. The sparks from landing on the deck, and distorting the HELL out of the decks of the battleship just from the blasts. Klan Klein was right, there's nothing in the universe that compares to Zentraedi weapons.

    "Please help her understand why Quarter, while being a 400m-class, is christened Macross."
    I knew what was going to happen, and it still made me smile like a moron when I saw it.

    One more thing to like about this episode. Captain Glass abusing his own daughter on the command deck for being a bossy, regular military know-it-all. He got her to puke, how sweet.

    Quote Originally Posted by David75
    The scene were Ranka accidentaly seats on the "joy"stick was mean...
    Episode? Timestamp?
    I don't remember anything like that. I must have missed it.
    Last edited by Ryllharu; Mon, 05-19-2008 at 07:23 PM. Reason: Because I was just reminded why I love Macross

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    Wow, just wow. Cant wait for the next big fight eventhough next week is most likely going to be some character development to juice up the show for some emotional fodder.

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    Episode 7 was such an eyegasm.

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    Think now nasty the Quarter Macross is. The Original Macross was massive, and a lot slower. The Quarter has immensely overpowered engines, and moves more like one of the VF-25s. That's like two of these hurtling at enemies at the speed of a jet fighter plane.

    One thing still strikes me as strange though. They showed Ranka and Sheryl's singing connecting through her earing to the one Alto has, and that's what partially helped free him and Luca. But right before that, when Ranka and Sheryl had their little moment with a galaxy in the background, the two of them were connected in a similar way.

    Sheryl's earing glowed second...after Ranka touched her lower body (either stomach or uterus area) and it glowed. Was that just symbolism or something way stranger?

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    Okay so Macross Quarter = Metroplex. Awesome...

    The fighting was good, and it was nice to see a missile spam actually cause damage (Ozma >>>> Kira), but how many VF-25's has Alto now trashed?

    The Sheryl Ranka connection opens new doors as does the oddly human looking guy with his oddly VF looking mech. Was he on the side of the Vajra and booked it when they were cooked or is there a third party? I don't think we'll be finding out next week.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Yukimura
    The Sheryl Ranka connection opens new doors as does the oddly human looking guy with his oddly VF looking mech. Was he on the side of the Vajra and booked it when they were cooked or is there a third party? I don't think we'll be finding out next week.
    He was flying what resembled a VF in every way, but it obviously outperforms all of the VF-25s.

    I would have said he could be on anyone's side at first, but he whipped out that harmonica and blew the first few bars of the song Ranka knows from her childhood and associates with her mother.

    It's possible he is a survivor from the Research Fleet that "disappeared" long ago when the Vajra first attacked. Maybe that fleet isn't even gone, Ozma just assumed it was and too Ranka with him.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ryllharu
    One more thing to like about this episode. Captain Glass abusing his own daughter on the command deck for being a bossy, regular military know-it-all. He got her to puke, how sweet
    Rather strong choice of wording, or did i miss something

    @episode 7:

    The action was awsome. Most spectacular probably was, when the captains transformed ship fired that uber-cannon, and the Vajra-ship developed all these little bubble before it got BOOM. Great.

    What i dont like is the whole singing...itīs rather ridiculous...it has nothing to do with the real story, yet half of the episode focusses on it. Also, Rankaīs singing voice sounds far too confident compared to her real world-voice. Whatever...

    The Sheryl Ranka connection opens new doors
    Again, i have to ask: Did i miss something?
    That scene with Ranka and Sheryl in front of a galaxy-background was just a symbolism. Thereīs no actual connection as far as i got it. They simply sang at the same time, thatīs it.

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