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    Didn't Ozma and Alto end up with a draw?
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    Quote Originally Posted by shinta|hikari
    Didn't Ozma and Alto end up with a draw?
    Ozma got his thruster tail nipped. Alto got immobilised in the intake/shoulder.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Buffalobiian
    I guess this episode cleared one thing for me. The Vajra do need to escape back to share information on weapons, not just simple survive for a split second to send out fold waves.
    Didn't Luca say they were jamming fold waves within some radius? I remember reading the distance translation and thinking it was far too small.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Yukimura
    Didn't Luca say they were jamming fold waves within some radius? I remember reading the distance translation and thinking it was far too small.

    Yes something like 100 click radius

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    I don't think I'd call the SMS folks rats leaving a sinking ship. When your choices are leave or extermination... I think leaving is a smart option. Something along the lines of living to fight another day.

    It was good to at least see humankind has the ability to make better weapons and adapt the jamming strategy to keep those weapons useful... for now. At least the explanation for the new weapons is moderately believable unlike Geass where things just seem to advance at a logarithmic pace. It seems like the Grace syndicate doesn't intend to let mophead stay in control for long. I wonder if there plane is to "replace" him or just full out extermination of the Frontier. I remember in the last ep she said she didn't want Frontier to die just yet so it makes me curious what other experiments they have going on (all of the chimeras??).

    But the series does seem to be building to the "battle for the planet" climax. At least that will give them an endless sky to fight in.

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    3 episodes left. Will Alto finally cease to be a tool? He began to piss me off when he forgot he only wants to fly, and started to act like some lousy wannabe psychiatrist for the girls, and feeling responsible for every decision made by others. It's probably better plotwise he was left behind (not that the life of a pirate would be good for a tool anyway) and maybe this will finally force him to make the first decision of his own.

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    Just watched it.
    Can someone explain what that "Becoming pirates"-thing was about? I didnt get it that well...

    Also, meh, Alto chooses Sheryl over Ranka...that was the boring, because obvious, choice. I wanted him to choose Ranka...

    And lol, how weird has that to be when you&#180;re flying in space, and a giant big boob-girl appears in front of you. Khlan is awsome xd

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    Quote Originally Posted by MFauli
    Just watched it.
    Can someone explain what that "Becoming pirates"-thing was about? I didnt get it that well...
    The crew is stealing the Quater, and going against the established ruling state Macross Fontier, hence becoming fugitives.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Buffalobiian
    The crew is stealing the Quater, and going against the established ruling state Macross Fontier, hence becoming fugitives.
    And what is their goal?
    Kill their former comrades?

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    Uhhuh. Ozma told Alto their goal: When everybody else is staring right, somebody better look left as well. Obviously they are trying to look at the humans-vajra conflict from a different perspective than the corrupt coup d'etat president now in power.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MFauli
    And what is their goal?
    Kill their former comrades?
    I wouldn't consider that their ultimate goal.

    Firstly, their intention is to leave Frontier, who, in their opinion, is not ruled by the rightful leader. They don't serve him, so they leave. By stealing the Quarter, they've made themselves, "pirates", and fugitives of Frontier. Leon knows what they're thinking, and that Ozma's on board. He'll issue a kill/capture-on-sight command, so it's note like Quarter has a choice but to fight.

    Quarter's main goal, I believe, would be to wait for the emergence of a rightful leader, and aid them in overthrowing the current corrupted Frontier.

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    Will the bitch ever die? It's like a bad joke unless her second name is Kenny.

    Alto still isn't too convincing but I'm hopeful he will get together with Ranka, after all. His little cooking and eating session with Sheryl in this episode looked more like someone taking care of somebody out of a sense of duty (or pity) than someone spending quality time with his loved one. Of course he even couldn't have been totally relaxed knowing Sheryl is a terminal case but still I didn't sense any particular love there, from Alto's direction.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kraco
    Will the bitch ever die? It's like a bad joke unless her second name is Kenny.

    Alto still isn't too convincing but I'm hopeful he will get together with Ranka, after all. His little cooking and eating session with Sheryl in this episode looked more like someone taking care of somebody out of a sense of duty (or pity) than someone spending quality time with his loved one. Of course he even couldn't have been totally relaxed knowing Sheryl is a terminal case but still I didn't sense any particular love there, from Alto's direction.
    That....unfortunately.....does seem like the case. I'm still hoping for an AltoxSheryl ending, but now that this, and Sheryl refusing to take her medicine is shown to us, it seems less and less likely.

    So Grace is now a Colonel? What's up with that? Somehow, I don't think being a collection of minds will make her more of a war machine than Brera.

    Too right about Alto seemingly joined SMS just yesterday. He might have improved his skills, but his way of thinking hasn't changed at all. Perhaps it's just unconvincing to be in a leading military role without a gruff, commanding voice.

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    Grace was probably always a Colonel since the beginning of the series. She certainly had command/control over Brera since his first appearance. We don't know all the details yet, but it seems likely that she joined the fringe militant branch almost immediately after Ranshe (and possibly Dr. Nome) rebuked her side of the research. Something Grace has only now come near to achieving.

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    Lol @ Alto&#180;s brother.
    Did he really intend to persuade Alto into that his destiny is to be the actor of a female role instead of fighting for humanity?
    AAA-scene xD

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    Sad that Grace intended to kill Brera.
    Quote Originally Posted by MFauli
    Lol @ Alto´s brother...
    AAA-scene xD
    qft

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    I like Ranka suddenly a lot less after this episode. It's one thing to be an indecisive good little girl but quite another to become the willing tool of the immortal bitch Grace, and help in the massacre of humanity.

    Also, why do the vajra suddenly suffer the company of Grace and Brera? It makes sense they have nothing against Ranka hanging around but Brera is nothing but a Grace's cyborg sextoy and the bitch herself... Well, she's whatever it is that makes a human immortal but how does that make her so close to the vajra?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kraco
    I like Ranka suddenly a lot less after this episode. It's one thing to be an indecisive good little girl but quite another to become the willing tool of the immortal bitch Grace, and help in the massacre of humanity.

    Also, why do the vajra suddenly suffer the company of Grace and Brera? It makes sense they have nothing against Ranka hanging around but Brera is nothing but a Grace's cyborg sextoy and the bitch herself... Well, she's whatever it is that makes a human immortal but how does that make her so close to the vajra?
    Well to me it's obvious that she was able to crack all of Vajra's network protocols.
    By doing so, she's able to be identified as whatever she wants, and able to do so for Brera.

    Also, she's able to control Ranka thanks to the Vajra bacteriae in her. At some point I think the human/zentran part of Ranka will be able to control herself again... but for the moment she can't because she is depressed.

    Grace's ultimate goal is to become the Vajra queen and rule over the galaxy. As you've seen, even though the network is a multipeer one, nodes are more powerful than basic peers and the central nodes rules them all.
    That central node is the queen.
    I'm almost certain Grace has links with the zentran fonder of SMS... They spoke about the same thing, same project.

    The question is why is it so cool to be ruling a galaxy with bug like slaves...

    Regarding Alto, for some reason we can't certify he is dead yet. It was'nt as clear as for Michel...
    We clearly see the beam hitting well behind the cockpit, we do not see his face nor body and the last images though showing explosions tell us nothing about his actual state.
    Also the earring is a way to be linked to the network to both Ranka and Sheryl who hold vajra bacteriae.
    So his near death experience is impact on Sheryl... and Ranka who will probably take control after she thinks her love interrest is dead.

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