Macross Frontier

[David75]

I did not get my hands on hentaï material displaying intercourses between a giantess and a "normal" sized man... but did see some material anyway (not labeled hentaï due to the source and culture). It"s funny and I like the idea, as an idea only.

Regarding the illness, sure my guesses aren't backep up by strong details in the show. The ear ring was a weak one, but could apply if V-type is Vajra-type and those quartz are so important. Anyway, we should know quite quickly since it seems to be a one season show (at least for that timeline)

[Ryllharu]

I never said that "V-type infection" doesn't mean the V stands for Vajra. I'm not sure either way on that. In fact, it probably does lean in that direction given the two assistant researchers involved in the project. Grace and her cyborg cadre certainly know more about them than they should, and if Ranshe is Ranka's mother, we know for certain that her research shifted to the study of Vajra, or at least ended up that way with all the material that Alto passed by while in the Research Fleet Macross vessel.

[Buffalobiian]

Did Ranshe look anything like the woman in Ranka's vision when she was captured in the big mothership?

[Ryllharu]

From episodes 14 and 18 respectively:

Feel free to draw your own conclusions.

While I think that perhaps the Vajra were just using the image of the human they knew best to project into Ranka's head, I think the evidence is fairly conclusive the Ranshe is the same woman who led the research aboard the lost Research Fleet. I believe we are fairly certain from episodes 13 and 14 in addition to the tidbits Ozma has given us that the woman who led that research was Ranka's mother.

[Buffalobiian]

Seem like they're the same person to me. Meanwhile:

[Nipponsei] Macross Frontier OP2 ED2 Single - Lion [May'n & Nakajima Megumi].zip

I didn't realise it was both the OP and the ED in one until I posted this. Double the hearing pleasure. Enjoy.

[lelouch]

This series is really starting to get good. I am a little confused about the term "deculture" though as it seems to be appearing a lot. What is "deculture"? (Maybe translates as something else in other subs).

[Ryllharu]

"deculture" was an Engrish word they used in the Japanese dub of the first series. It seemed to be more of a blanket concept for culture in general, and was never overtly explained.

The two genders of Zentradi did not even live together, and only ever thought about war, nothing else. Music confused them, cohabitation alarmed them, and kissing put them into a huge shock. The people aboard the Macross used these against the Zentradi as weapons, confusing some, converting others. "Deculture" was used more often when were using it as a weapon, though it also covered the general culture that humankind had.

[David75]

Ep20 by GG:

[gg] Macross Frontier - 20 [9E7173A2] mkv 394Mb @ xabin.eu

Towards the end of the show, drama and action escalation...

[Kraco]

Somebody hasn't been doing his job when a whole army of vajra had been breeding inside the ship, undetected. There were a lot more vajra than people there, in the end! The fleet apparently has no maintenance department.

A wicked episode otherwise, though. People dying left and right.

[David75]

Somebody hasn't been doing his job when a whole army of vajra had been breeding inside the ship, undetected. There were a lot more vajra than people there, in the end! The fleet apparently has no maintenance department.

A wicked episode otherwise, though. People dying left and right.

Yup, as I mentioned before, those ships are close ecosystem. Such a mass of vajra should have warned someone in some report, because this mass is taken from the system as a whole.
Plus they were on a very restricted ressources use not long ago, such a large use of ressource should have been seen.

[Ryllharu]

This is why I've always liked Macross series more than their Sunrise counterparts (Gundam, Geass, etc).

They both share countless numbers of random deaths from all the no names, but when primary characters are strung between Atropos' shears, they mean it. Deaths are permanent, always. There's never any moments that might dilute the moment, or cast any doubt that they are dead. Be it bleeding out on a couch, blown up into tiny shreds, or impaled then covered in gore then a little burnt and experiencing the joys of explosive decompression. Macross characters do not come back from the dead. Each and every death means something.

...god I hate Ranka. The preview makes it look like I will hate her even more.

[Kraco]

I don't hate Ranka at all. But I hate Alto for being so dense and keeping both the girls in torturing uncertainty.

[xtallography]

I just had to watch that twice I thought it was so good.

I think Alto has made his decision. His interactions with Ranka seem more out of duty to the ship/fleet than anything else at the moment whereas when he's with Sheryl it appears to be out of more genuine emotion. Plus, I'd hope that Michel's situation would make him realize how short life is. It will be interesting to see what kind of role Klan has in the next couple of eps.

It was also good to see that Ranka's songs can have undesired affects on the varja if her own negative emotions get in the way.

[Inazuma]

I think we could at least make Macross Frontier an honorary member of the series in Fuego.

[David75]

I just had to watch that twice I thought it was so good.

I think Alto has made his decision. His interactions with Ranka seem more out of duty to the ship/fleet than anything else at the moment whereas when he's with Sheryl it appears to be out of more genuine emotion. Plus, I'd hope that Michel's situation would make him realize how short life is. It will be interesting to see what kind of role Klan has in the next couple of eps.

It was also good to see that Ranka's songs can have undesired affects on the varja if her own negative emotions get in the way.

Regarding Klan I now have mixing feelings for her future in the show.
Will she die quickly fighting as a dumb seeking death.... or will she make it alive so that she can suffer Michel's death for a long time....

[Buffalobiian]

I certainly didn't expect Michel to die, but he did was to go, I do think this would be the best. Now that this has happened, I think something like this may also happen to Ozma, leaving Kathy with a final confession.

Good episode, though it didn't quite get my emotion up, for some reason. Maybe Diamond Crevasse just isn't sad enough.

[Inazuma]

With that preview she obviously goes berserk. And thank god Diamond Crevasse was GREAT because I was at a point where if I heard Aimo again I would just Alt-F4 the damn thing.

[Buffalobiian]

With that preview she obviously goes berserk. And thank god Diamond Crevasse was GREAT because I was at a point where if I heard Aimo again I would just Alt-F4 the damn thing.

I would hope that those eyes mean a loathing hatred and deadly focus and accuracy rather than berserk spraying. If she lives, it'll be good to see her carry Michel with her in spirit in the form of a deadly sniper.

[xtallography]

Yeah, I hope she doesn't become death seeking-ly reckless even though that would be the easiest route for the writers to take. Deadly sniper Klan would be an awesome alternative though. The preview definitely showed vengeance in her eyes. The plus side is we'll get to see her fight at least for one more episode.

The real question is going to be how do Ozma and Kathy prove that mophead actually killed the president versus having him just say that the president died in the varja attack. Even worse is how do they stay alive when he does take control. A man willing to snipe the president certainly isn't above killing those two off.

[Kraco]

They don't have to prove anything, though, if they just make sure the president won't be the only high official who got killed in the vajra attack. That would also be a lot more satisfying than any official way of handing the issue.