Naruto Chapter 383

[Konohamaru]

here's my 2 cents on the secret.

I think Madara wants to react the whole nine tales thing and so he needs the demon's for that and take over the world. I think Itachi is undercover in akatsuki and knows how to stop this but he needs the help of Sasuke which is why Itachi's been pissing him off to make him stronger, perhaps at least achieve mangekyou. Perhaps it takes 2-3 mangekyou users to stop the beasts. Sounds way off but it's only a theory of mine.

I also think Zetsu is Madara's partner. Zetsu being a master spy and all will be able to relay info back to madara. I still believe that everyone has a partner in akatsuki and I think those 2 are partners.

[Abdula]

I think Madara wants to react the whole nine tales thing and so he needs the demon's for that and take over the world. I think Itachi is undercover in akatsuki and knows how to stop this but he needs the help of Sasuke which is why Itachi's been pissing him off to make him stronger, perhaps at least achieve mangekyou. Perhaps it takes 2-3 mangekyou users to stop the beasts. Sounds way off but it's only a theory of mine.

That sounds rather familiar now doesn't it.

[iMUSTbeTHEdevil]

As for Madara's identity being hush hush, I thought that a long time again one of the Sharingan users said that there were 3 others with it? Or the ability to use it. I dont know maybe I am wrong. Anyone else remember this? Or was I on shrums then too?

[Abdula]

Yes it was Itachi back when he first killed of the Uchiha clan and told Sasuke the whole" hate me, despise me" thing. Specifically he said that if Sasuke were to acquire the MS then there would be a total of three including him and Sasuke, the third ofcourse would be Madara and now Kakashi has it aswell.

[Edort4]

Well it was a nice chapter. I hoped that Jiraya was saved at the last minute somehow but uhh... I guess he died in a beffiting way.

I really liked how kishimoto chained the pictures of Jiraya falling into the pond and sumerging to the oblivion while Naruto explodes out of the pond with no hesitation in his eyes. Some kind of baton pass.

I got the feeling that we will revive another Sasuke chase arc, there are too many leafs together so they will be separated somehow. I guess that Naruto with someone more will finally get to Sasuke while the others are fighting some team to open the way ( hebi or peins 6 bodies). Tsunade will read Jirayas message and send bakcup (sand ppl? with shikamarus team??).

I wonder how Naruto is any kind of chosen ninja when he is completely incompetent compared to any other high lvl ninja (and his shurikengan is bullshit).

[darkshadow]

Only just now i realize, that what itachi said at the end of this ch, is linked to what he said to sasuke when he killed off the clan.

[DeathscytheVII]

Thats another thing i've been wondering. What exactly ARE Itachi's own goals/ambitions/motives. When he killed his clan, he basically gave the impression that he did it to test his power, but what's he doing in an organization like Akatsuki? Is he really interested in world domination?

I keep getting this idea that he's a plant by Root. I'm most likely wrong, but his lack of emotional manner reminds me a lot of sai.

[Yukimura]

After going back and rereading chapters 224 & 225 I noticed that the wording used when Itachi talks about measuring his own and Sasuke's capacity could be interpreted in more than the simple 'I was just checking out how strong I am' way.

He says "It was done to measure my capacity" but he doesn't actually give a reason why his capacity needed to be measured. Later he says something like "I pretended to be the brother that you knew in order to ascertain your capacity." Again, he doesn't offer a reason, merely an explanation of what his goal was.

So now we know that Itachi wanted to know how strong he was and he wanted to know how strong Sasuke could be, to me it sounds like he already had some goal in mind that he wanted to accomplish and needed to know if it could be done. I suspect this goal is either to assist or stopping the the third Sharingan user from fullfilling "the true purpouse of the Uchiha clan doujutsu" which he mentions to Sasuke when he sends him to that shrine.

[mr3vi1m0nk3y]

So any guesses to what "the true purpose of the Uchiha clan" is?

[Yukimura]

My guess is playing a part in Bijuu domination via Genjutsu, like what Sasuke did to Manda but on a more powerful scale.

[iMUSTbeTHEdevil]

I really wonder if Itachi was gauging his own strength against his own clan, or really trying to figure out how he would do against another opponent, and this was the way to find out, but killing a shit load of people. Maybe he wanted to see if he was strong enough to fight against one person, where as this whole time I thought that he wanted to see how many people he could kill. If that makes any sense.

[Abdula]

I really wonder if Itachi was gauging his own strength against his own clan, or really trying to figure out how he would do against another opponent, and this was the way to find out

Isn't that the same thing. If he wanted to gauge his own strength and see how he would fare against another Uchiha in battle then its pretty much the same isn't it. He probably killed his clan to test his own capacity as he said and there would be no need for him to test himself against the clan unless he knew that there was someone more powerful out there which is why he needed to know just how strong he was.