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    Naruto Chapter 383

    [Raw-Manga] Naruto 383(lq)

    Raw is out. Nothing much happens, but we're finally moving on to the other fights.
    "Our hearts are full of memories but not all of them reflect the truth. The heart isn't a recording device. Even important memories change with time. They warp or fade, leaving us with but a shadow of what we hoped to remember." 天の道を行き、全てを司る。これは僕の世界。

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    I don't know, if the translation I read is accurate then at least one fairly important thing happened.

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    translation

    HA! So looks like Tobi is Madara after all....
    ....and it appears the only remaining akatsuki members that aren't in on it are Itachi and Kisame.
    10/4/04 - 8/20/07

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    Wow. Not too much happened. Still a good chapter though. They have alot going on, but I dont know, I would like to see one fight at a time really. Awell, too much action is better than not enough.

    assertnfailure (7:40:03 PM): dude....your posts are a bunch of nonsense

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    seems like Jiraya saved his body from being raveged after all, good for him.

    ZETSU IS BACK! badass-venus-flytrap-multipersonnalities-dude make his appearence, showing us why he's the bestest ninja around.
    I'm not so much impressed with Tobi beating Naruto's clones, we've seen it a million times before, anyone can down Naruto.

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    an IP adress? a code to the secret safe? a gymetric code? is there a cracker/hacker/H@X0R in the forum?

    I want to see Kisame again, and i want to see him killing the water boy.

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    Interesting... What's Zetsu have to do with the fight between Pein and Jiraiya? Again, it sucks that Jiraiya died.

    Finally, it's been clarified that Tobi is Madara so those ridiculous theories of Tobi being Obito can be flushed away.

    DAMN YOU JIRAIYA!!

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    Wow this chapter was crazy. So much info was given out and it looks like the real fight between Sasuke and Itachi is finally going to start.

    Quote Originally Posted by Death BOO Z
    seems like Jiraya saved his body from being raveged after all, good for him.

    ZETSU IS BACK! badass-venus-flytrap-multipersonnalities-dude make his appearence, showing us why he's the bestest ninja around.
    I'm not so much impressed with Tobi beating Naruto's clones, we've seen it a million times before, anyone can down Naruto.

    9.31.8
    106.7
    207.15

    an IP adress? a code to the secret safe? a gymetric code? is there a cracker/hacker/H@X0R in the forum?

    I want to see Kisame again, and i want to see him killing the water boy.
    The code is probably one of Konoha's ciphers. When it gets to Tsunade and gets deciphered then we'll find out what it means. I wonder what her reaction will be to the information (not to mention Jiraiya's death).

    Quote Originally Posted by DayoftheDante
    Do you think it's possible that Madara did actually die, but his body was reanimated somehow by Pein? The thought that Tobi is a rotting corpse under that mask is kind of cool to me...
    I doubt it, though with all the stuff reveled I'm not going to dismiss anything outright. Madara has some connection to the tailed beasts so its possible that an explaination for his increased lifespan might involve them.

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    Hehehe finally joined this forum...seems like this chapter was interesting enough for me to join the discussion about it. So hello everyone.
    But anyway let's see...

    Quote Originally Posted by Death BOO Z
    seems like Jiraya saved his body from being raveged after all, good for him.

    ZETSU IS BACK! badass-venus-flytrap-multipersonnalities-dude make his appearence, showing us why he's the bestest ninja around.
    I'm not so much impressed with Tobi beating Naruto's clones, we've seen it a million times before, anyone can down Naruto.

    9.31.8
    106.7
    207.15

    an IP adress? a code to the secret safe? a gymetric code? is there a cracker/hacker/H@X0R in the forum?

    I want to see Kisame again, and i want to see him killing the water boy.
    This was an interesting question, but fairly easy to answer.
    9+31+8+106+7+207+15= 383 = the current chapter. I do not think Jiraya is referring to the manga chapters but he's referring to the page 383 of his own book. Also the conversation between Pein and Zetsu was kind of weird since at first you would think he was talking to Pein but after Pein said "He appeared out of nowhere right after Madara ordered me to capture the nine-tails". Zetsu began talking with his other "personality". So I don't think Zetsu will have something to do with akatsuki management or something. And heh I am really curious for the Sasuke VS Itachi fight.

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    ^^ Interesting theory... It could be correct, page 383 of Jiraiya's life stories.

    As for the Sasuke vs Itachi fight, I'm not really sure if they are going to fight. When Itachi asked how good has Sasuke's eyes gotten, it looks like Itachi was going to show Sasuke something the way he walked past him like that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Id3aLiStiC
    ^^ Interesting theory... It could be correct, page 383 of Jiraiya's life stories.

    As for the Sasuke vs Itachi fight, I'm not really sure if they are going to fight. When Itachi asked how good has Sasuke's eyes gotten, it looks like Itachi was going to show Sasuke something the way he walked past him like that.
    The last frame on the left shows them both spinning to strike each other.

    I also think that theory is too obvious. He could have written "383 in my book" in the same amount of time. Maybe it could be each page says something and then page 383 summarizes, but I doubt it. Either way it will be something Naruto or Tsunade understand.

    Also this is pointless, but obviously everyone seen the face in the water when Tsunade looked down? Was that the Fourth and Jiraiyas or was it just the Fourth and the Third, or was it Jiraiya and the Third - her teacher and team member? (Yes I know it could have quite possibly been a reflection from the mountain, but she could have been seeing Jiraiya's face since he just died, and Tsunade is good with omens) Also it was a frog that made the ripple, so I think it was Jiraiya and the Third.

    Picture:

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    Quote Originally Posted by joker-kun
    Could it be a reflection of Mount Hokage?

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    Quote Originally Posted by poffin
    This was an interesting question, but fairly easy to answer.
    9+31+8+106+7+207+15= 383 = the current chapter. I do not think Jiraya is referring to the manga chapters but he's referring to the page 383 of his own book.
    ...and in Jiraiya's dying breath, he writes an encryption with even more encryption by breaking up an arbitrary number into the sum of 7 smaller numbers. If that's the case, then I don't know if I should see it as an insult to Pein for assuming he lacks basic math skills, or an insult to Pa, who clearly lost quite a bit more flesh from having 13 numbers etched into his back rather than 3.
    10/4/04 - 8/20/07

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    Jiraiya gets a fitting end and it seems Zetsu is in on it aswell. I was wondering if he was because if there is anybody in Akatsuki its impossible to keep secrets from its him. So Zetsu, Pein and Madara have some secret plot going on. It would make sense if those three created Akatsuki, Pein is the muscle, Madara is the brains and Zetsu is their means of acquiring information with his "all seeing eyes."

    Another legendary threesome. Sharingan, Rinnegan and whatever it that gives zetsu his abilities.

    Other than that this chapter was all teaser. This chapter felt like it took forever and the other battles still haven't started yet. Still I'm pretty excited for whats to come.

    Yes its finally been clarified that Tobi is Madara but that only leads to further questions.
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    It does, however, make Zetsu's conversation with himself a little weirder back when he was arguing about Tobi as a candidate for akatsuki.
    10/4/04 - 8/20/07

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    wow, it's been a while since I made a crazy theory.. so I might be a little rusty.
    but nevermind that, here we go.

    Zetsu is the true mastermind. he created the akatsuki for some purpose and used payne as a the front of the leader. in the meanwhile, he manipulates Obito (who had a memory loss and now calls himself Tobi) to believe his Madere, in order to lure out Itachi and Sasuke (possibly, he makes 'madare' convince Itachi to kill everyone) to fight him, since like Orochimaru, he thinks the Sharingan is the greatest threat to his masterplot, but he also wants something that only the Uchihas have in one of thier many secret houses.

    well, I know it's weak, but I'm going to work on this one, depending how the next few chapters come out.

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    Anyone else think the fight Zetsu was talking about (well, the one that the one half was talking) is Itachi and Sasuke? I obviously don't get any points for that considering it's fairly obvious, and I doubt he cares about Kisame's fight.

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    So, Tobi is Madara after all. Well, I guess all we need now is an explanation on his longevity of life. I would like to have found out Pein's identity: apparently it's important enough that protecting it keeps him alive. Whatever happens, Naruto has to figure out that ultimate jutsu before he can take down Pein.....so I expect we will have a nice long break in action after the next two battles.

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    Quote Originally Posted by KCMmmmm
    So, Tobi is Madara after all. Well, I guess all we need now is an explanation on his longevity of life. I would like to have found out Pein's identity: apparently it's important enough that protecting it keeps him alive. Whatever happens, Naruto has to figure out that ultimate jutsu before he can take down Pein.....so I expect we will have a nice long break in action after the next two battles.
    It's not that protecting it keeps him alive, it's that Jiraiya not finding out until it was too late was the deciding factor of that battle.
    10/4/04 - 8/20/07

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    Do you think it's possible that Madara did actually die, but his body was reanimated somehow by Pein? The thought that Tobi is a rotting corpse under that mask is kind of cool to me...

    We don't know for sure whether those other bodies that Jiraiya recognized are people who actually died or just went missing, do we?

    And FUCK, I was hoping that Tsunade would show up at the last minute to bail Jiraiya out, even if that would have been a cheesier resolution.

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