To be fair though we haven't seen any of the Kage's for the other 3 villages. So we haven't even met half of them yet.Originally Posted by Abdula
To be fair though we haven't seen any of the Kage's for the other 3 villages. So we haven't even met half of them yet.
Sasuke as Hokage... now there's a thought.
I don't know if this has been discussed, but about someone from the Hyuuga clan? I'm sure Hinata's father is at least as strong as Kakashi, so he could be in the running.
The Hokage Lineage: First was the Second's brother I think, both thought Sarutobi, who then taught the Sannin, Jiraiya then taught the fourth, who taught Kakashi, who taught Naruto, Sasuke and Sakura.
@ DarthEnder: You bring up another point, are we ever going to see any of the other villages are is Kishi just saving that up so he could conveniently introduce them later on. With all the crap that has been going on you would think some other villages would get involved. Atleast they could have shown us a bit more of the mist village since it was mentioned on a number of occasions and we have already seen three very strong ninjas from there who have played Major roles.
@Yukimura: Yes I already noticed the master-disciple chain that connects the hokages it was shown pretty clearly when the third died.
As for the Kages dying "often" if you include the Kazekages then the third and fourth Kakzekage and the Third and fourth Hokage all died within a span of 16-17 years. While that may not be that often its a total of 4 times, five if you include Gaara's death although the title didn't change hands. Thats often enough
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It's less often then your average Pope.
I'm really hoping so. The only non-filler we've seen of the Stone village is Diedera. And we've only seen the Cloud village in Neji flashbacks.
It is entirely possible though that wasn't happening in those villages is already not as interesting as Akatsuke and Orochimaru.
Konoha needs to have a real, full-blown war with one of the other major countries.
i agree! i find these 1on1's boring xD
i prefer mass-battles and assasinations... i mean this is a series about ninjas right?
i want to have zabuza and the demon brothers backthey were the only ones who looked like ninjas..
all stealthy and sneaky ^^
the funny thing is that the episodes with the demonbrothers (and zabuza+haku) were the best one in this series.. the animation was great and so was the action... too bad they didn't keep this up and made being a ninja look like doing sports and having fun.
Someone seems to be trying to steal dattebayo's place as 'lame jokers'.
A torrent for an episode 42 has surfaced on Tokyo Toshokan (http://www.nyaatorrents.org/?page=torrentinfo&tid=7887), but ep 42 will not air until january. Plus... there is no YHBT on dattebayo's webpage. Thus, my first statement.
Sorry, this is just absurd. Hokages have to be strong, certainly. But they do not have to be the strongest in the village. Example: Jiraiya is clearly stronger than Tsunade. The Hokage is chosen by the Village Elders (and Feudal Lord, if I recall), presumably on the basis of effective leadership (as the Elders told Jiraiya).
If you noticed, well I guess you didn't but that was already dealt with. I can't believe we have to wait so long just to see Naruto go Kyuubi and make a big fuss and it all turn out to be for naught.
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And yet, that's counter to what's stated at the beginning of the series.
Besides, they wanted to make Jiraya Hokage. He turned it down.
At the beginning of the series, they stated that the strongest shinobi in the village becomes hokage. I think they might've meant the shinobi strongest cumulatively in both strength and leadership, otherwise someone like kabuto or orochimaru might become hokage.
Or let's say if hinata became the strongest. Even though she is the strongest, she is obviously not fit to be a leader.
Jiraiya on the other hand, although Tsunade may be a better leader, Jiraiya would be fit enough to be a leader. The only reason they offered Jiraiya before Tsunade, I believe, is because they did not know where Tsunade was.
I can go along with that.
Well, if Oro had become Hokage, would it have been that bad? If you could get him to stop messing around with your own villagers, then I'm sure all the other hidden villages would be really wary of that sick Kage over in the fire country.
I wouldn't be surprised if one or more of the other Kages IS like Orochimaru. I mean, they can't all be good guys. I mean, the 4th Kazekage was not a very nice guy. And the Hidden Mist village seems pretty savage. So what's their Kage like?
They don't have to be nice as far as I know only the hokages are known for being "nice." They are supposed to be the leaders of the most powerful ninja villages, they aren't supposed to be nice. I don't think anyone can realistic expect military leaders especially if they are ninjas to be nice, as long as they are effective and do what is best for the village as a whole.
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All the nice Hokages are from the leaf, you won't see a tiranic leader in the main village (main village of the whole storyline).
But yeah, I think Oro would rock as a kage, he would make sure the village would be safe in his own way of course. While Sarutobi might defend the village when its under attack, Oro would be torturing people from other villages to confess secrets or possible invasions and prevent an attack from ever happening.
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do you really think so?
i personally believe he would raise taxes and stuff xD
and there has to be a sacrifice once a weak for his dirty and nasty experiments...
i think he doesn't care about the village at all when he becomes hokage, he would simply make war with other villages and weed out the weak and create an army of super-soldiers.
as a kage he sucks, but as a villian he rocks...
I think the downside is to that is if they don't happen to have any prisoners that week he'd clearly just start taking people from town to experiment on.All the nice Hokages are from the leaf, you won't see a tiranic leader in the main village (main village of the whole storyline).
But yeah, I think Oro would rock as a kage, he would make sure the village would be safe in his own way of course. While Sarutobi might defend the village when its under attack, Oro would be torturing people from other villages to confess secrets or possible invasions and prevent an attack from ever happening.
God, this 3 week wait is killing me.
This episode was so whack. Awesome I mean :P
Although I also mean in the other way as well. The power balances in this anime is not really thought through at all.
Jiraya would slay Kisame and Itachi (itachi said so)
Orochimaru would be killed like a baby in the water by Itachi (Orochi said so)
And Naruto almost killed Jiraya with 4 tails (He barely escaped with his life riding the big wave obviously).
So how come Orochimaru has the time to taunt Naruto at 3 tails? It's obvious that the difference in strength between Jiraya and Orochimaru is huge based on sentences in the series. Does 1 tail really make that super big difference.
Now I'm already convinced that it doesn't, and even more so am I convinced that the writer of this fun anime/manga hasn't thought the power-levels through thorouhly. But what is the deal. And then saying at 3 tails that he is no match for Sasuke either, that is just pure ignorance.
This part of the story is only understandable if Orochimaru has balls of steel and knows that he is so close to death he is wetting his pants on the inside but feels he has to taunt Naruto just because he is curious to see just how strong kyuubi inside him is. Suicide, but still the only logical explonation.
I won't even begin to measure the power levels in ordinary genin, chuunin, jounin and what other types there might be. Because I know there just ain't no real thought behind it.
Otherwise, super series (and ep). Hope to god this won't affect Naruto and sakuras relationship :P And hope Sai gets a real pounding by Naruto so that he is taught what fear is like (would be a good step in him getting some emotions).
I'm not going to say anything about you being weeks late in posting. I'm not even going to say anything about what you said about Oro, Kisame, Itachi and Jiraiya. All I'm going to say hopefully for the last time is that there are no powerful levels in Naruto. Its not DBZ or Bleach or anything of the sort, for all intents and purposes anyone can beat anyone. As a matter of fact simply stabbing someone with a kunai could kill in Naruto and anyone can do that.
What they were referring to in those example were skill, experience and the difference in fighting styles that would allow one person to defeat another even though said person would not be able to defeat some else that the first person already defeated. Example Itachi said they would have lost to Jiraiya yet Itachi had already defeated Oro in the past something Jiraiya said he was never able to do. This just goes to show that there are no power levels in Naruto if they were Naruto would be able to own everyone we have ever seen in the show and we know that is not true.
What decides the outcome of a battle are the skill, experience and fighting style of the participants. Even beyond that there are extenuating circumstances that have major effects on the outcome of a battle such as chakra, the environment, experience etc. Some examples during the Gaara vs Deidara battle Gaara had a major advantage simply because of the geography of the environment they were fighting in. During that same battle Gaara lost because he decided to save the village instead of attacking Deidara.
One way the difference in fighting styles could affect the outcome of a battle is in the Temari vs Tayuya battle for example. Temari was able to defeat her with one move even though Tayuya in CS lvl 2 was clearly stronger than Temari was. Another thing that could effect the outcome of a battle would be back up when Naruto and the others met Itachi for example. Itachi put Naruto in a genjutsu that he was unable to break out off, at that point if not for Chiyo and Sakura that battle would have been over. This is also another good example of how fighting style decide the outcome of a battle because as we saw then with Itachi and when he fought Kakashi the first time, his fighting style is very difficult to deal with and if you get caught in a genjutsu and are unable to break out the battle is over.
Just again to remind you while there may be rankings in Naruto like genin, chuunin, jounin, hokage or S rank, A rank, B rank jutsus there are no powerful levels. While some characters may be stronger than others and some may have more physical strength, chakra and or stamina or some people's jutsus maybe just plain better than others there is no actual power levels in Naruto.
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