Did anyone notice Ino's rack at the end, during the Konoha Youth Exercise Club?
That was the only thing that made this episode worth downloading.
Looks like high quality animation coming up in episode 42.
Did anyone notice Ino's rack at the end, during the Konoha Youth Exercise Club?
That was the only thing that made this episode worth downloading.
Looks like high quality animation coming up in episode 42.
never thought i could watch 40 mins in 7 mins and not miss anything at all, thank god for the 2 sec foward button
Kabuto really is a tough bastard. Sakura was knocked senseless for a long time yet Kabuto himself only lost his glasses. Still, it amazes me how Yamato, Sakura, and Kabuto (and Sai in the beginning) didn't do anything but only watch Naruto and Orochimaru. You would think Yamato and Sakura would have tried to take Kabuto out of the picture in leisure while Oro was occupied with Naruto.
Kind of lousy tactical thinking all in all. But then again, since nobody anyway did nothing but stand and stare, I guess it makes perfect sense.
Originally Posted by Yukimura
Sounds like the Gaara arc all over again. Just like how they ruined Kakashi's MS, I guess that is their formula now get everybody hopes up, and ruin all the action scenes by drawing them out with bad animation no less. Well atleast we can expect some high quality emotional scenes when its all over.
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this wasn't the worst special @ all... however i have to admit that the first ten minutes sucked like hell...
they were just looking at each other faces and the scene was hopping from oro to naruto to kabuto to yamato to sakura to sai to naruto to kabuto to oro to yamato to sakura to naruto......to sai to naruto to oro to kabuto...
well but after he had his 3 tails out it was very good actually.... i liked the scene when oro was facing the nine tails, when sakura got knocked out, when naruto was "drowning".. well to sum it up the later part of episode 41 and the whole second part was awesome... i think some people are overreacting here, i've seen much worse.. this however was still fun to watch.. especially the end.
and who said that the animation was bad? it wasn bad at all... it was pretty good... i liked the slow motion effects.. sure... they are better animated animes, but it was still enjoyable
btw i think oro is an alien! ^^
ah and i think i will download like 4-6 episodes and watch them THEN... somehow the 1 or 2 week pause between the episodes make this series bad... if i watch all episodes at once it makes this anime more interesting
i dont understand one thing though... why the hell didn't oro use this "rebirth" technique when he lost his 2 arms against the third? he did not form any seals, did he?
Last edited by KrayZ33; Fri, 12-21-2007 at 11:53 AM.
You know what contradictory to my above post I think you are right. This episode really wasn't as bad as it was made out to be. There was a lot of not necessarily action but excitement and there were a lot of great scenes although the animation was a bit shoty at times. The pacing was along the lines of the previous episodes as they are still just setting the stage for the battle. There were a few unnecessary flashbacks but the one where Jiraiya explained what happens to Naruto was good, although there were a few inconsistencies there, and the one with Sasuke and Naruto in the valley of end really set the tone for Naruto and showed you why he feels so desperate and helpless when it comes to Sasuke.
The most impressive thing in the episode was how unimpressed Kabuto and especially Orochimaru were with Naruto's power. This is the first time Naruto has impressed me albeit as Sai said it isn't Naruto's power, its the Kyuubi's but its impressive none the less. Orochimaru was completely unimpressed with Naruto up until he transformed to 4 tails and even when he was three tails, he said Naruto still didn't compare to Sasuke which really has me interested in just how strong Sasuke has gotten. Yamato and Sai showed off their abilities, Sakura showed everyone just how weak she still is and Orochimaru showed us just how impressive he is. He is standing up to the Kyuubi's power and he isn't even the least bit intimidated, I'd imagine that the scene where he was standing face to face with the Kyuubi was what the fourth had to deal with.
I think it can be said without question now that Oro would have easliy beaten Sasori, that one smack alone would've destroyed Sasori or anyone else for that matter. I look forawrd to seeing the rest of this battle and it will be especially fun to see the rest of Orochimaru's disgusting jutsus animated. Naruto was just as intimidating as I'd hoped he would have been, I think they captured the scenes from the manga well and although some slight changes were made absolutely nothing was lost.
- Four tailed Naruto looks and sounds just like a Chiropteran in that last scene. Actually the Chiropteran comparison came to me from Accel 2 because he really resembles one in the game.
Last edited by Abdula; Fri, 12-21-2007 at 01:27 PM.
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Oro's probably just saying that to piss Naruto off, it seems to be a hobby of his.
Which I can only assume is gonna get him killed someday.
Oh shit, I forgot about one of the most interesting things in the episode.
That apparently the 1st Hokage had the ability to make the tailed beasts into his pets....
Wtf?! Why hasn't THAT ever been mentioned before! I mean, the 3rd was really powerful, but how did he surpass a guy who can control fucking Tailed Beasts. How was that guy not Hokage right up until he died?
Actually I don't think thats true, Oro doesn't actually like pissing him off, he is a "kind" villain he doesn't necessarily try to piss people off, he just speaks the truth. Like when he refers to Naruto as "the kyuubi boy" or Yamato as his lab rat its not to piss them off its the truth. As we've seen in the battle of in the valley of end, no one could generate as much power as Naruto but Sasuke could actually be stronger than Naruto is. I think he is absolutely stronger than normal Naruto, I just don't know how he would be able to deal with the Kyuubi.
The third didn't take over from the first hokage, the second did. The hokages usually retire once there is someone strong enough to take over their role as the third did when the fourth became hokage. Also no one claims that the third surpassed the first, the third was known as the strongest because of his knowledge of jutsu and the first being able to control Bijuu is obviously only because of his wood element techniques.
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How on earth did you come to that conclusion?
Um, because Orochimaru said that he wanted the first's mokuton because it gave him the ability to control the bijuu and he also said that that must be why they made Yamato the leader of Naruto's group because the mokuton gives him that ability. Something the flashback with Jiraiya and the others confirmed. Weren't you watching/reading?
Funny thing about that is that Orochimaru thinks that the leaf should be thankful to him because if it wasn't for him they wouldn't have had a way to even attempt to control the kyuubi.I agree, I wonder what other crazy experiments he had going on in the leaf before he left. "The world may never know."
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Don't forget Lee's pink shirt. >:[
Anyways, I thought this episode was mediocre at best. It had its moments... but there was a lot of boring space in between, and they dragged on the transformation for way too long. Some of the animation was really bad as well.
No, if you want to be technical, he said he wanted the first's DNA.
So next ep is 4th tail vs oro. It's already been established that 4th tail vs jiraiya resulted in jiraiya being closer to death than he's ever been before, so next we get to see how well oro fares. :]
10/4/04 - 8/20/07
Well the DNA was so he could get the mokuton. IF A=B & B=C then we could just leave B out altogether. Awe the transitive property, I never thought I would have ever had to use that.
Yes and I would like to see just what Jiraiya did against four tailed. I think Orochimaru should fare better because although I have no idea what Jiraiya did, I assume he tried to disable Naruto without killing him or damaging him even more than the Kyuubi was already doing whilst still trying to protect himself. Oro has no one to protect and certainly isn't going to have to hold back against Naruto in this battle for any reason thus he should fare much better than Jiraiya did.
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which of the animation was actually bad? the only thing that comes into my mind is when the wodden pieces from the bridge flew arround when he transformed into the 3 tails
well maybe i m just trained in ignoring the bad animation because i watched every single filler episode :P.
to oro:
i dont believe a single word he says, even though i like him very much!
he fought like 2 secs agains naruto and lost his arm if he is so superior then he shouldn't have a scratch at all and when sasuke is even STRONGER than naruto with his tails, than he wouldn't stay @ oros place, simply because he seeks power and has no need to stay with someone who is not as powerfull as himself...
oro wants to see naruto in a really pissed off state to see his true power and to gain information. Kabutos "suicide" action made me think that too.. i dont think kabuto is stupid enough to attack an opponent who is obviously 10 times stronger than himself
and oro does provoke him all the time "you will have to force it out of me,if you can that is", when naruto is trying to hold back his hatred.
kabuto and oro were both smiling after they taunted him and a new tail formed...
Actually his, you will have to force it out of me, statement is something alot of people say, that only means you won't get anything voluntarily from him. I think he has said that to Kakashi or Jiraiya before. Naruto on the other hand doesn't need any provocation to transform. Its all about his anger, for example when he was fighting Deidara he began to transform and Deidara wasn't taunting him then.
Its all about his anger and him feeling helpless which the Kyuubi exploits. If you paid attention you would notice that while he was transforming the only thing that was on his mind was the fact that he failed to rescue Sasuke. The only time he responded to anything Oro said was when Sasuke's name was mentioned and that is not an Orochimaru specific thing, he acts like that even when Kakashi or Sai mention Sasuke's name.
The reaction we saw here was not because of Orochimaru because outwardly it appears that Naruto blames Orochimaru for taking Sasuke but inwardly he feels responsible for Sasuke leaving because he wasn't able to stop him. This situation only forced him to realize that. If you pay attention you would also notice that Oro was not intentionally trying to provoke Naruto, he himself seemed surprised at how Naruto reacted everytime Sasuke's name was mentioned. You can't go by whether they are smiling are not Oro and Kabuto are always smiling and they were smiling as they said because they were impressed with how much Naruto has grown. Since I know someone is going to bug me about it. I know I said they were unimpressed with his power before but that is his overall power not his growth.
Anyway Oro is a villain if he taunts you and you aren't able to control yourself and you respond to his jibes then that is your own fault. In that case you are a failure of a ninja, Orochimaru just has that kind of personality that makes you think that he is always taunting you even when he is not. Sasuke has/had a similar personality, they just have a superiority complex thus they view everyone else as inferior. If you think he was taunting Naruto, the you must think that he was taunting Yamato as well but he didn't react like Naruto now did he.
About Oro losing his arm and all that if you notice he hasn't, currently he doesn't have a scratch on him and two he wasn't fighting Naruto and he still isn't. He was talking and Naruto blind sided him and he still hasn't put up any offence whatsoever.
Again with this strength thing. Why don't you guys get it strength doesn't mean literal strength. In most cases in Naruto it refers to fighting ability. Sasuke would never be more powerful than tailed Naruto, I don't think anyone will ever be but that doesn't mean he would lose to Naruto. If you remember their battle in the valley of end Naruto was obviously more powerful than Sasuke but he still lost. Even if Sasuke is stronger than Naruto doesn't mean than he can beat Oro as yet. As you said when he does become stronger than Oro, I expect that he will leave and go after Itachi and since that hasn't happened, its safe to assume that he hasn't surpassed Orochimaru yet.
Personally I have a problem about what you said about Kabuto being stupid or attempting suicide as you put it by attacking someone who is obviously stronger than he is. If you think of it that way then most of the ninjas in Naruto are stupid aren't they. Shikamaru, Sarutobi, Kakashi, etc because they attacked someone who is stronger that them.
Are you saying that no one should attack someone else unless they are stronger than that person because while that may be logical, its not practical. Ninjas are supposed to be able to fight and/or defeat ninjas that are stronger than they are, if they couldn't beat someone simply because they are stronger than them then it wouldn't make sense. Kakashi is a perfect example all his opponents when they first appeared were or atleast seemed stronger than him.
Naruto wouldn't have fought Haku, Kiba, Neji, or Gaara if he couldn't win simply because they were stronger than him. With that I take my final journey down the rabbit hole, atleast for today. Hopefully.
Last edited by Abdula; Fri, 12-21-2007 at 05:02 PM.
Dreaming impossible dreams.
Sapphire is awesome!
The First apparently had two unique abilities: using wood element jutsu and controlling biyuu. I don't see how the latter would 'obviously' be a consequence of the former, they could just as well be totally unrelated. I haven't heard anyone say that the first controlled the tailed beasts with his wood element jutsu.
No, the first had the ability to perform wood nijitsu AND control bijuu. You ARE jumping to conclusions if you think that he can control them through wood techniques. That or you are manga propheting it up in here.
Edit: Beat to the punch, how sad.
Jessper. I'm really beginning to think you're an idiot.
Its obvious from what was said that its because of his Mokuton as that thus far is the only thing that he has in common with Yamato and we haven't seen anything else to suggest that it is some other technique or ability that allows him to control them because that is his unique ability. Orochimaru said that he was jealous of the first ability to control Bijuu and thus he stole his DNA and implanted it in 60 children in the hopes that they would acquire his ability. Yamato has that special ability which is the mokuton, the ability to turn chakra into life force.
You should find something else to do besides attempting to attack me or whatever it is you try to do. Your little hobby is annoying especially because your last few post in the Naruto anime threads have been nothing but you attempting to attack me, you never do anything else and you fail even at that. Leave me alone dude, your boring, you annoy me, and you insult my intelligence.
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Please, that is an incorrect application of the transitive property.
If...
A = 1st DNA
B = Mokuton
C = Demon control
Then the B=C relationship is purely a continuation of your own speculation. The correct analogy would be a venn diagram, in which the A circle completely encompasses the smaller B and C circles, the latter two of which, may or may not (but probably not) intersect with each other.
A = B + C
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