A lot of people die in Naruto, I'm surprised to be honest. I forgot Asuma had died. God his death sucked, it had no impact whatsoever except for making Shikamaru go SSJ or something.
A lot of people die in Naruto, I'm surprised to be honest. I forgot Asuma had died. God his death sucked, it had no impact whatsoever except for making Shikamaru go SSJ or something.
amazing chapter, we all saw it coming but i was still hoping Jiraya would survive.
The last couple of chapters story wise was great and i have a feeling it's going to get much better. I thought it was funny what Jiraya said to Orichimaru that is not how many jutsus a ninja has. i automatically thought about that a lot of people complain that Naruto only has a couple of jutsus. ow and it was nice to see Naruto's mom
Yeah, that was mentioned a very long time ago, well Naruto still doesn't have enough jutsu sure you don't have to know every single jutsu to be a great ninja but most of the great ninjas knew quite a few jutsus, certainly more than two. I didn't think that Jiraiya was still hung up on the not "saving" Orochimaru thing. I thought he had gotten over that.Originally Posted by Eddie_Brock
Yes his death did suck. After how ever many years it was of Kishi letting a great character like Asuma rot he finally pays him some much overdue attention and then he kills him off. That seriously pissed me off especially because Asuma's death really didn't do anything plot wise. Asuma could've simply been injured and then the story could have continued on with Shikamaru and the others looking for revenge for Asuma being injured. It would have turned out just as well and then Asuma would still be alive. I think Kishi did that just to prove that he could. Wait isn't Kurenai pregnant, I wonder if that is going to go anywhere or if its just going to fall into the background like so many other things have.
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Dreaming impossible dreams.
Sapphire is awesome!
Asume died to play out a point, the point is that fighting the akatsuki isn't a child's game.
he got wasted becuase he was invloved in a serious fight, and it's about time that some charecters get wasted.
Asume was the first good charecter to die before his time (jiraya and the 3rd were old, and therefore, were sure to die sooner than later), unless he died, no one could accept Shikamaru beating Hidan. in fact, more charecters should die. a konoha ninja death for each akatsuki (or any mini-boss) defeat seems like a good ratio. but that won't happen.
for the chapter itself. at first, i though Jiraya was in the after world and was actually talking the 4th, and that the 4th (what's his name?) is saying that he didn't die a failture and stuff.
also, Kushina (naruto's mom) is quite good looking, but i don't get her outfit: the left hand seems sleeveless. while the right hand has a 'faric' feeling to it.
it's too bad that the mentor type charecters always kick the bucket before revealing the secret to the hero, I'm really curios about the fox seal from a few chapters back.
Haha, I can see you asking something like that...
It's already been explained through his personality. He failed to protect the 3rd and 4th, he lost oro, he turned down the previous offer to become hokage, and he acknowledges himself as the "frog hermit." The guy never had the confidence to protect and nurture the lives of those he cared for.
10/4/04 - 8/20/07
Assertn why are you bashing Jiraiya.
What is it with you and always wanting to see someone die. Frankly I don't expect to see very many "death" scenes in Naruto or perhaps I didn't before the time skip they seem to be happening fairly often now yet you don't seem to be satisfied. Anyway one thing you can be sure of is that there will be more.
Yes, apparently he did die and then he evidently willed himself back to life to send off that final message. Pein and Pa said as much, but I don't think he was talking to the fourth he was having an out of body experience similar to what Gaara had.
Dreaming impossible dreams.
Sapphire is awesome!
My wish came true. I'm not quite sure if he wrote it on the frogs back or if it was some sort of memory transfer, either way i'm happy. Now we got to wait until the frog dude tells someone. I am guessing he will be telling the Frog Sage first since Jiraiya said he needs to know. Hopefully he'll pass on the news to Konoha as well (Maybe Naruto since his name is next on the frog scroll (after Jiraiya and Minato) so he has access to them, and I -think- the frog can pop out it he wants to for Naruto.). It was a nice added touch the whole "I'm not going to give up". It took away from Jiraiya's pessimistic outlook of his life and looked like he passed with a sense of 'honor' or whatever you would like to call it.
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Jiraiya has a queue of like, 3 different things that he sent back to Konoha.
It's interesting....but I can't think of a single time where a good guy's summon has ever been attacked by a human villain. They just....left pa there, even though he previously demonstrated relatively formidable power against them. Conversely, Oro's lost 3 snakes to Jiraiya and Sasuke, then Manda got stabbed in the mouth by Tsunade and then blasted by Deidara.
10/4/04 - 8/20/07
what gets me is the frogs are really small, how exactly are they going to get the news to konoha without the enemy getting to them first? ninja frogs must have an amazing ability to hop great distances. ha
Nah man....same technique Sasuke used with Manda....
just summon/unsummon between dimensions.
In all honesty, I'm sure Jiraiya could've done that too instead of just walking right into the lion's den after defeating the summoner.
10/4/04 - 8/20/07
Assertn I think Kishi was very desprate when he made that jutsu(the summon/unsummon thing) and forgot about it in this fight. If that did thing was around before I'm sure every1 would used it by now.
WOW!!! My heart is broken because Jiraya was killed. He was a perv but beyond that he was so courageous and had such a big heart. I am sorely disappointed that he did not kick more ass as would be expected of a legendary Sannin but still overall this story line has really made the last few chapters with him up against Pein.
As always I am anxiously anticipating the next chapter....the fight between Itachi and Sasuke should be phenomenal (wonder if Sasuke is indeed strong enough to kill his older brother even after undergoing his metamorphosis with Orochimaru) and then the battle between Sasuke and Team Nartuto.....but ultimately the fight I am most anticipating now is the fight between Naruto and Pein. Who knows maybe even Lady Tsunade will leave her desk long of enough to help kick Pein's ass.
(((Goodbye Jiraya....we shall all miss u brave Shinobi)))
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Yeah cause all writers forget the stories they write...Assertn I think Kishi was very desprate when he made that jutsu(the summon/unsummon thing) and forgot about it in this fight. If that did thing was around before I'm sure every1 would used it by now.
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The real question now is, who is going to fight pein? Are we gonna have to wait another 4 years until naruto becomes strong/competent enough to take him on on one, or will there be a collaboration effort from team 7 after the sasuke/itachi deal is done. Or is kishi gonna be a cheap ass and make naruto go SSJ Kyuubi x7 and give us another idiotic "everythign gets destroyed by naruto" fight.
Im hoping for the collaboration effort....it would be nice to see kakashi, naruto and sasuke working together to take down the akatsuki leader.
Human summons have been done before.....Assertn I think Kishi was very desprate when he made that jutsu(the summon/unsummon thing) and forgot about it in this fight. If that did thing was around before I'm sure every1 would used it by now.
For example.....the 5 other Pains showed up via summoning, and Iruka was summoned using those scrolls in the chuunin exam. I'm sure there's special conditions necessary to be able to pull it off, like in Sasuke's case, Suigetsu already had a summon scroll, and Karin could sense whether Sasuke was in Manda's dimension.
10/4/04 - 8/20/07
That actually seems like a good idea.
I think people like Itachi will play a part in Pein's/Tobi's downfall, but ultimatley the story shall end with Kakashi, Sasuke, Naruto and Sakura finishing everything off. The series begand with team 7, and will end with team 7.
I think now that Jiraiya is dying/dead, Tsunade will die soon as well. There is no point keeping only one of the Sanin around. It will probably end with Kakashi becoming Hokage, and Team 7 becoming the new generation of Sanin.
What about Sakura?!!?!?!?!??1?1 You forgot her!! She is part of Team 7 too you know!
oh u'll be surprised, some do.
Man I can't wait to c the chapter that Naruto find out about J-man's death. I personally hope Kishi sacrificed J-man so he could avert Naruto's attention from sasuke to akatsuki mainly pein for the time being. While using J-man's body as pein new collection somehow put Naruto into an array of emotional stress thus pushing him into whole new lvl. We've seen this before for ex: Naruto vs Haku, Naruto vs Garaa. Granted in those fights one of his friends were in danger but same sort of feeling applies to J-man even if he has become the enemy. That being said I wonder if pein will add J-man to his collection?
Yes there is a point in keeping her around she is the hokage. I don't think Kakashi is ready or would ever want to be the hokae, I think Tsunade will remain the hokage for quite some time. The next one should most likely be Naruto. The third was hokage until he was in his 70s, I think maybe his late sixties either way Tsunade definitely has 10 or 15 more years left in her and by that time Naruto should be ready.He probably only needs 5 more years at most at the rate he is growing. I don't think Kishi would kill off another Hokage, it really wouldn't look good if another hokage was killed three years after the third was and I don't think Tsunade would go after Pein she doesn't seem to be a vengeful person.
There was a point in killing off Jiraiya though. It progressed the story a lot and his purpose was to keep Orochimaru in check. I saw someone ask earlier why Jiraiya had left the village earlier on and why he wasn't there when Naruto was younger and that was because he went after Oro when he left. He said that he was tracking and monitoring him all this time and come to think about it the only reason he returned to the village when he did was because of Oro. So now that Oro is gone and he had already trained Naruto there really wasn't anything else for him to do. He himself said that he was waiting to go out with a bang
Dreaming impossible dreams.
Sapphire is awesome!
I had assumed that the whisker marks on Naruto's cheeks were a trait gained from the Kyuubi, but apparently he's had them since birth... So where the hell did they come from? Mom and Dad don't appear to have them.
Unless that person holding Naruto was Sarutobi, after the sealing.
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