Gundam 00 Episode 10

[Buffalobiian]

Another thing I picked up this episode regarding Tieria.

He talks to Veda. We see Allelujah talk to Hallelujah and vice versa because they talk back. What about Veda? He talks back? We've known Tieria to almost honor Veda's decisions, that he follows them strictly, proudly. But he communicates with Veda? When people are disparate or emotionally unstable, they'll tend to call for those who are closest to them. From what I saw, Tieria's eye colour change looks almost electronic, and as soon as he thought I'm gonna lose Nadleeh comes to life. Also, take a look at around ep1 (6:00 Menclave's version), you see Tieria floating (assuming in space) in a room that looks like the core of a supercomputer. He seems to be either sleeping. meditating, or communicating. Nothing's to say he doesn't have anything implanted that allows him to communicate with electronic devices. If he's the only one to have such a close relationship with Veda, it can explain why he finds himself to be the only fit Gundam pilot (until this ep), and why he's so devastated at having failed himself.

Also, he said to Allelujah "you too are unfit to be a Gundam pilot" when he aimed for the cargo ship. The "too" may have referred to Setsuna, or maybe Lockon (terrorist opinion), or maybe someone else....

edit: In reference to the Nadleeh concept, Veda can be an entity for the it/genderless spirit

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Am I the only one that went 'WTF?' when Nadleeh appeared? I didn't see it coming and I liked it. I'm wondering how different Nadleeh is from Virtue. I doubt Nadleeh is only faster then Virtue, becuase if it is, what is the point of Virtue? Huge armor is pretty useless if you also have a GN barrier.

The whole Virtue-Nadleeh thing can also be more symbolic. Virtue looks buff and strong, while Nadleeh looks more feminine. And since I still think that Tieria is female, it should explain stuff.

The reason that Soma had to cut something off was IMO more a way to try to cripple it and hopefully slow it down a bit. A Gundam in pieces can be restored.

I saw on ANN that this series only has 26 episodes.. is this true?

Nadleeh's hair is a weapon of sorts I think. Maybe it is razor sharp and can be manipulated with GN particles. The first season is 26 eps. It is slated Code Geas S2 comes on for a season, followed by Gundam 00 S2.

[masamuneehs]

Another thing I picked up this episode regarding Tieria.

He talks to Veda. We see Allelujah talk to Hallelujah and vice versa because they talk back. What about Veda? He talks back? We've known Tieria to almost honor Veda's decisions, that he follows them strictly, proudly. But he communicates with Veda? When people are disparate or emotionally unstable, they'll tend to call for those who are closest to them. From what I saw, Tieria's eye colour change looks almost electronic, and as soon as he thought I'm gonna lose Nadleeh comes to life. Also, take a look at around ep1 (6:00 Menclave's version), you see Tieria floating (assuming in space) in a room that looks like the core of a supercomputer. He seems to be either sleeping. meditating, or communicating. Nothing's to say he doesn't have anything implanted that allows him to communicate with electronic devices. If he's the only one to have such a close relationship with Veda, it can explain why he finds himself to be the only fit Gundam pilot (until this ep), and why he's so devastated at having failed himself.

Also, he said to Allelujah "you too are unfit to be a Gundam pilot" when he aimed for the cargo ship. The "too" may have referred to Setsuna, or maybe Lockon (terrorist opinion), or maybe someone else....

I thought it was established early on that Veda was a computer / AI system that assists CB by running scenarios and coming up with different options for them to take. I wouldn't be surprised if it's the AI preservation of the CB founder guy, and also the room you mention from episode 1.

What makes me believe Veda is this, rather than just another split-personality or something along those lines, is how Tieria also referred to "the plan" in this episode. He was upset that he revealed Nadleeh because "it wasn't supposed to be this early in the plan".

This brings up yet another thing, something that Tieria's eye and the Chinese girl's comments at the end. First, we never see Tieria push buttons or anything to activate Nadleeh. It is almost like Tieria's Gundam senses his/her despair and transforms in response to that.

That makes you think. Maybe all the Gundams are built to respond to their pilots' mental status? Maybe... (but I hope not). It could very well just be Tieria.

And when the Chinese girl says that "The Gundams are the perfect embodiement of CB founder's ideals. But why? Why are the Gundam pilots so imperfect?" When you take this and combine it with Tieria's fanatical devotion to Veda and "the plan" (something he's willing to sacrifice his teammates and other Gundams in order to protect), Tieria's constantly harping on "being worthy to pilot a Gundam" plus the possibility that Tieria might be the only pilot for Virtue/Nadleeh... Well, Tieria is the 'senior pilot' right? Lockon sure never saw the Nadleeh. Setsuna and Allelujah have childhoods originating outside CB....

It wouldn't surprise me if Tieria was built to fulfill some special role. At least seriously biologically manipulated after birth, once they determined that he was a Nadleeh with potential for awesome powers. We've seen genetics, biological enhancement and gene therapy emerge as themes in recent Gundams (also in this one with the HRL's soldier program). I think it's more than believable that Tieria was created, or at least raised, according to explicit instructions from Veda left by the CB founder in some attempt to make a human who matches his ideals...

Also, good call about the Nadleeh's hair possibly being a weapon. I thought it was just a cosmetic decoration and some visible allegory for the Gundam's 'sex' being female, but it sure could have practical purposes... That would also reinforce the idea that Nadleeh is a close-range melee-type model (sticking with the 'duality' theme when reflected on Tieria), and that it annihilating those HRL soldiers was due to both surprise on their part and sheer speed. But it has to have a drawback somewhere...

Next episode seems to also be about Allelujah (I mean, it's titled after his name...). Is it just me, or are we getting a ton of his backstory while never learning much about the others? A character development episode after a fight like this is fine with me... even though it really makes me wish this battle had resulted in a worse defeat for CB. Nearly halfway through the first season (a full 1/5th of the show) and we've yet to witness more than just a strategical defeat for our good guys. You'd think the global balance of power, CB, or one of the countries would have undergone some serious change/developement by this point... but they haven't. So far this lack of change is my biggest gripe with this show. I crave some Operation Daybreak type shake-up... a minor character death or some other serious loss would be good too...

[Ryllharu]

Nadleeh's hair is a weapon of sorts I think. Maybe it is razor sharp and can be manipulated with GN particles. The first season is 26 eps. It is slated Code Geas S2 comes on for a season, followed by Gundam 00 S2.

The "hairs" are cables to power and control the pieces of armor that made Virtue. If I could read Japanese, I could probably find a source to back that up, but for now I'll just use wiki

(source: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of...Gundam_Nadleeh )

[Death13a]

^^ those type of eyes in characters(glowing with lines) are when they have power to manipulate something.

The hair-like connector cords that project from the Nadleeh's head are in Virtue mode used to mediate the operation of the systems within the armor plating.

It could be that Nadleeh uses it's hair to hack MS's systems and possibly poison them with GN particals.