Naruto Shippuden Episode 36-37

[KrayZ33]

i dont think that someone like kabuto, who himself likes to play mindgames, would fall for something which just happened in an eye blink.

and the reason why Oro's did talk all the time about Sasuke is Naruto... Oro believes his influence is "bad" for Sasuke so he wants him as quick as possible.

Actually there is no reason for kabuto to be jealous this would only be the case when he wants Oro to transfer in HIS own body (and ooohhhhh we KNOW that Kabuto does take care of his life).. why you ask?

because if Oro would have destroyed Konoha he would simply take over sasukes body right there. that means that Sasuke would be dead right after the transfer.
so it would have been the same situation as before.

Oro would be "training" Kabuto (or whatever they did before) in Sasukes body which has the look of orichmaru (face + hair) etc.
so why should he kill him out of jealousy?

[Abdula]

Kabuto didn't fall for anything he just got excited. Oro's influence being bad for Sasuke is bull, as we've seen Sasuke has a very strong will and the only thing that influences him is Itachi. Sasuke when to Oro of his own free will, he even had the most difficult battle he has had thus far just to get there, so he didn't go because of Oro's influence he went for power. The reason he left the leaf was because he felt he couldn't get any stronger if he stayed there and I would imagine that as soon as he gets what he wants from Oro he will leave him as well.

If Oro could've simply taken over Sasuke's body that easily he would've done it when he put the curse seal on him. From what I've seen thus far it would appear that his host body requires a lot of preparation before he can use it.

Like I said before Kabuto is a very competent ninja there would be no need for Oro to train him. The reason Oro has Kabuto in the first place is to help him conduct his experiments and preserve their bodies.

[KrayZ33]

uhm sorry i might used the wrong word there, with "his influence" i mean "naruto's influence" (sry i think its my fault my english isnt that good :P)
and Oro did say that! not me...
and the body transfer does not need special preparations it does work very fast if you rewatch the episodes right before Kabuto sends Kimi you can see it. or at least these preparations were allrdy made at this point

and the reason why Oro did not take over Sasuke's body in the jungle is simply because he wanted to test him... he wanted to see if he is worth the effort and here again, its not me who says that, its Oro himself.

(btw that is true "evidence" :P)

[Yukimura]

It's easy to speculate when you knows the answer already. But true talent is in speculating in such a way that it can't be detected that you know already the answers. Anyway, if you don't like Abdula's speculation ignore it. At first it's annoying but after a while you get used to it. I don't know why Kabuto stays with Oro and I don't think there's any way to ever be certain of a characters true motivations since they can have an epiphany and completely change their mindset at anytime (Especially if Naruto is around).

What we do know is that Kabuto has risked his life to protect Oro when he could conceivably have escaped and he's had opportunities to poison or attack Oro in a weakened state but has not done so, and though he's bent them some I don't think we've ever seen him directly disobey an order. The reasons for his behavior could be almost anything though. Oro could have something over his head, Oro could have mind-fucked him into serving him, or he could just be completely in love with Oro's trouser snake...which is an actual snake of course...whatever his motivations may be, he is clearly willing to risk death for Oro's sake.

My favorite theory is that Kabuto has very mild multiple personality disorder. He has a soft side that's into serving and protecting Oro and his ambitions and then he has a nasty cold calculating side that's only concerned with achieving his current goal, whatever that may be. The way it seems to play out is his softer side dictates what he wants and his nasty side does whatever it takes to get it. The softer side which he seems to show Oro the most blends in with the face he puts up when pretending to be everyone's friend. The nasty side seems to be more evident anytime he's fighting or in a situation where he is interacting with people other than Oro but not pretending anything.

[Abdula]

@Yukimura. In love with his trouser snake which is an actual snake. lol.

I don't think it can be considering speculating if you already know the answer. My theories on Kabuto are based on what we've seen in the anime. Its true there is no way to know what peoples true motivations are. No one really knows why Itachi killed the clan and Oro's supposed goal of wanting to learn every single jutsu was not something I think fit at all with his character not to mention that it is impossible.

Kabuto having MPD fits because something is definitely wrong in that dude's head. The side he shows when he is with Oro could be his dominant personally or it could simply be the one that comes out due to Oro's intimidating nature.

@ KrayZ33: Actually I do think it takes a while, not the jutsu itself but I think there must be some preparation time because the host body Oro used had apparently been his prisoner for quite sometime.

Anyway we don't really know anything that one is just my guess because there are some restrictions with the jutsu because apparently he can't just transfer from one body to another he has to stay in one body for at least three years. So I think that there would be some preparation not necessarily for him to perform the jutsu but for him to stay in it long term.

What else would the significance of the three years be and there is a reason why he put the heaven seal and the earth seal on Sasuke and Kimimaro the only two people he thought would be compatible hosts for him long term.

[KrayZ33]

hmmm i did forget about what we were talking @ the beginning.... does someone remember that? i think i got a bit too much offtopic heh?
geez i shall stop my senseless speeches now.

btw im sure kabuto is the spy ^_^

[Abdula]

What off topicness.
The only thing anybody talked about in this thread was the possibility of Yamato being related to Tsunade, Sai turning red(actually turning normal color), Naruto's perversion and the the cliff hanger at the end of the episode which led to the whole who is the spy discussion.

Are you just being funny again?

[KrayZ33]

ya off-topic seems to be the wrong word (thats why i wrote it as a question because i m not sure if it really is offtopic) but the discussion is totally usleess

because we arn't going anywhere here... i can't believe Kabuto likes Orochimaru and you can't believe that Kabuto would betray him... so there is no point to keep that conversation going.

[DarthEnderX]

Amen, fortunatly the next one comes out tonight at we can start all over again.

[KrayZ33]

i m looking forward to it... actually, its very amusing ^_^