Originally Posted by AssertnFailure
So you are saying that he is a typical teen hellbent on shock value? Sounds like any artist of that age that I know. Works for me.
So you are saying that he is a typical teen hellbent on shock value? Sounds like any artist of that age that I know. Works for me.
assertnfailure (7:40:03 PM): dude....your posts are a bunch of nonsense
I think he does it to prove what terrible ninjas they are. If Danzou controls root and he's "emotionless and logical" then Sai probably is too.
And by insulting them he's proving what shitty ninjas they are compared to him by showing how they let their emotions control their actions.
Well I've had a horrible life so as a result I have a very nasty disposition besides that I've had to become a very cold and calculating person just to survive and since I was that way since I was about 3 I don't have a lot of practice dealing with people. Plus not having emotions beyond the anger and resentment I use to motivate myself doesn't allow me to understand other people well. I hold myself and the people around me to a ridiculously high perhaps unattainable standard and I criticize absolutely everything in the hopes the perfection will somehow make up for all the crap that has happened in my life.
Understanding me is impossible and anyone who assumes they know anything about me beyond what I've told them really aggravates me. Sorry if people never understand my words or my intentions because that is simply due to lack of experience.
Anyway, I'm beginning to think that that is when the stuff about Danzou was first mentioned in Tsunade's conversation with Sakura because Shizune and the others already knew about him.
They only made the Danzou/Root situation more confusing because in the last episode they said root was disbanded and it is obvious from the conversation Sai had with the root member that that is not true. Especially because Tsunade said "Danzou is the leader of a powerful military faction and Sai's superior."
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Great episode, the story is actually interesting. Heres hoping that it doesn't get destroyed by slow pacing and terrible extra "fights".
Oh ya...
I'm sure your life has been real rough. Reason enough to be a dick-wad full time!
If an entire post of yours is there to argue and tell people that their OPINIONS are wrong then you are simply trolling. Trying to make people sympathize with your "horrible" life won't change that.
The real answer here is that if you are using your past as an excuse then you don't really want to change. Like Janusz said, pathetic.
Off-topic clean up.
All pertinent Naruto related points of this post have been preserved
Last edited by masamuneehs; Fri, 11-23-2007 at 08:17 PM.
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Yeah I got to admit, stories ar developing in this ep. But still, very slooow.
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Sirs, you use a forum to talk about certain topics. Stay on them.
If y'all really need to do this, start a new thread or, for my part, post in the bitching thread.
Get back on topic. Everybody.
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Was there something here besides off-topic rambling...?
Hmm...
Probably would have been better for you two to take your little, completely unrelated to Naruto, squabbling to PMs or the Flame Pit. That way I don't get to delete it
Warned for offtopicness
Last edited by masamuneehs; Fri, 11-23-2007 at 08:16 PM.
My question is whether Root was disbanded or not although the answer seems to be an obvious no but they it is and one episode later it isn't. What do you think?
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I think DB is doing some bad subbing as the story they present to us coincides between episodes. I don't know the actual story, don't read the manga's.
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i think the best part of the episode was the end credits when they advertised next weeks double episode, i love those. and hopefully things are going to get crazy really soon
the animation this ep really was leaps and bounds better than usual. probably about on par with ep 1.
when people talked it was often much more than just animated lips. things like that. I hope they keep this up.. but alas..
On topic. Whether you read the manga or not doesn't matter its just something I was wondering because it effects Danzou's motivations and what role Sai is going to play in the future. Speaking of Sai I think he fits in with the group better than Sasuke did. Sasuke was always the cool guy who never really said much outside of battle. Sai is an outspoken opinionated person although that may all just be an act but he definitely fits in with Sakura and Naruto even if they don’t get along.
As long as they don’t draw out battles like they did in the last arc it’ll be okay because that was unnecessary and poorly done especially when you consider that they were talking breaks everyone couple weeks.
Last edited by masamuneehs; Fri, 11-23-2007 at 08:14 PM.
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Sai fits better in than Sasuke? Not a chance. Sasuke was loved by Sakura and admired by Naruto. On the other hand Sasuke was grateful to Sakura and saw Naruto as someone worth competing with, in the end. The only thing that kept Sasuke apart was the fact he had a single goal that had nothing to do with the team.
Sai, however, very much looks like he wants to stay apart and in somewhat hostile or at least not friendly terms with the others. I suppose it could be related to the secret mission he got from Root. Maybe it will require him to betray the rest of the team (abandon them or something at some point, or even get rid of Naruto, who knows, or snatch Sasuke for their own purposes). It's not like Sai would have appeared that social even in his very first scene, but any person with half a brain could mix better in if he wanted, which means he doesn't.
@ Abdula: Kay, what I think is that Root is indeed disbanded and still secretly active. Also, obviously others have a say besides the Hokage and decide to add someone from Root to team Kakashi. Danzou probably has ties with either one and persuaded them to do this or are part of this. Dunno what but I'll see.
As for Sai, he's carrying around a book from his childhood. Which means he still has some emotion. And for Naruto being Naruto he'll probably touch Sai's heart sooner or later.
Just stating the obvious.
Last edited by Killa-Eyez; Fri, 11-23-2007 at 07:31 PM.
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Okay but I talking about how outspoken and opinionated the three of them are but you are right although I don't remember Sasuke, Naruto and Sakura getting along when they first met.
I don't think that Sai doesn't want to mix I just think he doesn't know how, remember he is/was a part of root and they didn't show emotions at all not even smiles so I think he just doesn't know how to get along with them. I think Sai would've been far more inconspicuous if he did fit in with the group because then they would be more likely to trust him and not pay so much attention to the fact that he has a secret mission.
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I don't think anybody would call people dickless wussies and ugly bitches knowing what those words mean and still thinking it's the normal way of talking to team mates.
Using reverse psychology this approach might be a good one for Sai if he indeed at some points need to do something nefarious. Because this way Naruto and Sakura will have other things to occupy their minds than trying to chat to him and probe about his past. And knowing Naruto, especially, he will be too hotheaded and angry to even consider Sai might be just keeping him occupied for special purposes.
Or maybe Sai is just uber arrogant and a real bastard, and he doesn't bother to try to please people that he might consider to be of no use to him. While I hope there's some dark plot behind everything, I also hope Sai was just being honestly himself. That would ensure we will get more funny scenes in the future.
Im sure its been said before, but Sai has no emotions, and doesn't know how to act sociably. I bet that he doesn't even know the negative meanings of those words and probably takes it too literal in his head. I mean come on, if you don't even know what face expression to make all the time, how do you expect to know if your words will anger (what is anger? is it bad? ) the people you talk to?
As for Danzou, I seriously think someone needs to assassinate that old geezer. He tried to build his own division of ANBU until it fell apart, which is kinda like making a mini army within an army. (possibility of rebellion?)
Not to mention, he kept calling Tsunade as Hime(Princess) Tsunade, rather than saying Hokage or just Tsunade. Its basically implying that he doesn't see her fit as a hokage, especially since he used to compete for that chair so desperately.
Are you saying he doesn't have emotions or he's an idiot? Because only an idiot wouldn't understand what happens when you insult somebody. Emotions have nothing to do with it, other than they would either motivate you do it despite the consequences or not make it due to the consequences. Besides, he does have emotions. They are just supressed due to his Root background.
As long as a real AI hasn't been developed, humans can't even imagine what an intelligence really without any emotions would be like. Emotions are so deeply coupled with our own intelligence.
I hope that is the real Sai too because he is funny as hell. I don’t think Sai has to waste any of his time trying to distract Naruto and Sakura they are completely preoccupied with getting Sasuke back. One thing I found funny about Shippuden is that Naruto still flinches every time Sasuke’s name is mentioned.
For someone reason I never thought of that. The idea that a secret society could exist in peace loving village like the leaf just never crossed my mind, maybe if it was the sand or the mist but that definitely explains a lot.
Its obvious that the two elders don't like Tsunade , I think they were Sarutobi's former teammates, which would also be another connection they have with Danzou but I don't think they would plot to overthrow Tsunade but they is no indication that that is Danzou's intention. You are right though the three of them seem to all have their own plans for the village and they are definitely going to do whatever they deem fit whether they have to go over Tsunade's head or not.
This reminds me of Chiyo and her sister but instead of isolating themselves from the sand village as those two did they are taking an active role in it and trying to effect actual change to get the village to be what they want it to be. The village must have been really strong when the third was hokage because not only were all three Sannin still a part of the village but the fourth Hokage, The white fang(Kakashi's father) and the Uchiha clan was still alive.
That is the one thing I dislike the most about Naruto "This mysterious power he has." First it was Haku, then Neji and Gaara even Tsunade and Jiraiya and now Chiyo as well. I really don't like that, yeah he is a nice guy and he is very likable but this softening peoples hearts thing sucks. Well atleast it doesn't work on Sasuke so I can be happy about that.
Last edited by Abdula; Fri, 11-23-2007 at 07:59 PM.
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How childish the series might be, we're still talking about Shinobi's here, so expect the unexpected.For someone reason I never thought of that. The idea that a secret society could exist in peace loving village like the lead just never crossed my mind,maybe if it was the sand or the mist but that definitely explains a lot.
I think you mean Chiyo and brother right?This reminds me of Chiyo and her sister...
And yeah, I guess the whole special power thing is a little bit soapie, but his attitude kinda makes up for it. And Í don't pay much attention to it really.
Last edited by Killa-Eyez; Fri, 11-23-2007 at 08:24 PM.
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