Naruto Chapter 379

[fahoumh]

She said for him to send one of his frogs, at which point she would help him out. Unless he did this underhandedly, there has been no such message sent..but he's already prepared to give up his life so yeah...

In chapter 371 on page 7, Jiraiya tells his "transport" frog to go back to Leaf Village so Ibiki can interrogate the other Rain ninja...so it may not be far-fetched to see Tsunade hearing about this.

[DB_Hunter]

If Naruto is the one who brings peace to the world, what's the point in him being Hokage? Wouldn't it be useless post then if there was no one to defend against? All that would be left would be paperwork to do, and Naruto would certainly suck at that.

[Assertn]

In chapter 371 on page 7, Jiraiya tells his "transport" frog to go back to Leaf Village so Ibiki can interrogate the other Rain ninja...so it may not be far-fetched to see Tsunade hearing about this.

Well he was obviously lying to some degree, because he actually had the rain nin disguised as him while he hid in the guy's shadow.

[fahoumh]

Well he was obviously lying to some degree, because he actually had the rain nin disguised as him while he hid in the guy's shadow.

Sorry, I don't quite follow. While hiding in the rain nin's shadow Jiraiya has full control over him, so what did he have to gain by lying?

[Uberbaka]

Is it just me or is it weird how alot of people assume that if Jiraya can't do it, nobody can?

Teamwork mean anything to you? There's absolutely no reason that one person alone has to be stronger for them to be able to defeat Pain.. I mean that's kinda the point to Pain as he is divided so that you'd -need- a balanced team to kick his ass.

It'd be cool if Jiraya got painified and got the eyes and became part of the collective (resistance is futile.).

[HachimonTonkou]

If Naruto is the one who brings peace to the world, what's the point in him being Hokage? Wouldn't it be useless post then if there was no one to defend against? All that would be left would be paperwork to do, and Naruto would certainly suck at that.

Being hokage doesn't mean you're always defending the world from evil or some other ninja trying to take over. And usually there's always an even bigger more deadly ninja pulling the strings, otherwise the series would just end

[Konohamaru]

Wasn't it said that the Hokage isn't nessesarily the strongest ninja in the village. It wouldn't make sense to do. I'd have like the 5th strongest ninja to be the Hokage as long they have some strong decision making. Anyway moving on.

Well Jiraiya is practically hokage level and is probably the best ninja in Konoha right now. He's not going to lose that easily especially to one of his own students. I believe he'll grow back his arm too somehow and get right back into the fight. I think he was just stunned a bit about that one way trip through a wall. He'll re-cooperate and get back in the action. If he does go, a guy at his level should leave a rather big dent in Pein before dying, because there is no way Pein is going to walk away unscathed.

I hope jiraiya doesn't die but it's been a while since a good guy as died.

[Assertn]

Sorry, I don't quite follow. While hiding in the rain nin's shadow Jiraiya has full control over him, so what did he have to gain by lying?

If the rain nin was with him, then that means the rain nin was not inside the frog to be interrogated back in Konoha.

[fahoumh]

If the rain nin was with him, then that means the rain nin was not inside the frog to be interrogated back in Konoha.

He captured 2 rain nin in the frog.

[deadlydreamx]

but didnt he turn one into a frog? unless he could still speak i think he'll be useless

[KCMmmmm]

but didnt he turn one into a frog? unless he could still speak i think he'll be useless

I thought that was just a trick. Either the guy will turn back, or it was some kind of illusion. Jiraiya doesn't seem the type to severely torture for information.

[TwisT]

And if he could turn people into frogs it would be all over. All he would need to do is turn Peins clones in to frogs and then he could just squash them under his boot. Pretty overpowered jutsu.

Also how can a jutsu turn someone in to a frog? That don't even sound right. Closest thing we have seen so far is Henge and then they are still themself and will turn back. I just can't see it from a scientific PoW.

[Idealistic]

Also how can a jutsu turn someone in to a frog? That don't even sound right. Closest thing we have seen so far is Henge and then they are still themself and will turn back. I just can't see it from a scientific PoW.

Maybe it's like turning Vegeto into a candy. He becomes smaller and harder to hit while maintaining his abilities.

Hah... Cuz you know... Pain is that strong.

[KCMmmmm]

Maybe it's like turning Vegeto into a candy. He becomes smaller and harder to hit while maintaining his abilities.

Hah... Cuz you know... Pain is that strong.

Haha, that's hilarious....the Boo saga sucked.

I still haven't forgotten about Sasuke and Itachi, by the way. What I don't understand is why Kishi isn't showing that fight before this one, or why he isn't at least splitting them like he usually does. Does he expect us to believe that fight is going to be more climactic? Well, perhaps it is, but how could it be more intense? Neither Sasuke nor Itachi are as strong as Pain or Jiraiya (I'm assuming), so wouldn't it make more sense to save the best for the last? Well, I guess we should have high expectations for that conflict then.

[dimitris127]

Dude, you really need to reread a few chapters. First of all Orochimaru by no stretch of the imagination is alive. Sure one could say that his mind is inside Sasuke but Orochimaru said himself that only the will of his host would remain buried in his subconscious and we certainly didin't see that affecting Orochimaru and since Sasuke's will is already stronger that his I don't see that as a problem. Secondly what kabuto did would only give him Orochimaru's physical abilities and although it may be taking his body over I doubt he will lose and even if he does he will be more of a Zombie than another Orochimaru. Jiraiya doesn’t really have anything more to teach Naruto all he has to do is give him the scroll with the key. I would think Naruto and the toads would have to do the rest in the same way the toads trained Jiraiya.

The name didn't change I just use Pein because I think a villain calling himself Pain is really lame. He has six bodies that is where we get the six paths of pain from what we saw in the cave was him getting into a chamber and there were 5 other bodies next to his that equals six.

OH and the other "half" of the Kyuubi chakra was sealed away with the god of death Naruto is most likely not going to ever get it back because I think there is a very good reason why the fourth did that. Secondly I think you are thinking about this the wrong way the fourth didn't exactly seal half the kyuubi's power he split the ying and yang chakra and sealed on away and gave the other to Naruto so while Naruto would possibly have had more abilities if he had the other half he wouldn't necessarily be stronger.

so you want to tell me that if ying and yang is split then the power of someone doesn't get harmed at all...so even if the fourth had destroyed the bad chakra there would be no harm done...then why didn't he do it?i don't think the mighty fourth who was able to do seal away the kyuubi in full strength couldn't destroy half of it's power...so my point is that naruto will get stronger if he attains the other half a kyuubi's chakra but that doesn't mean he will do it...also about the sasuke itachi fight who wouldn't like to see the fight between the all powerful sharingans(we still don't know how sasuke is gonna fight mangenkyou...maybe he got one himself)and who is going to win in that fight...maybe it's a draw

[Assertn]

And if he could turn people into frogs it would be all over. All he would need to do is turn Peins clones in to frogs and then he could just squash them under his boot. Pretty overpowered jutsu.

Also how can a jutsu turn someone in to a frog? That don't even sound right. Closest thing we have seen so far is Henge and then they are still themself and will turn back. I just can't see it from a scientific PoW.

Well, I'm under the impression that being inside that frog's body gave him abilities that he wouldn't have outside of the frog's body. At least, that's what Jiraiya implied.

[Abdula]

I think Jiraiya transforming that rain ninja into a from was just a trick, it would make more sense if it was because not only would he have gotten information from the remaining ninja but he would also have a prisoner to send back to the leaf for interrogation, and since Jiraiya was being overly cautious from the beginning I think that is exactly what he did. If it gets there in time to help him in any way is another story, but Jiraiya knew there was a very high possibility of him Jiraiya so doing so would have been a good insurance policy in case he does actually die.


Kishimoto hasn't been splitting the battle lately if I remember the Gaara battle correctly that is all we saw for a couple chapters, and he did the same thing with Sasori, Deidara, Orochimaru, Hidan and Kakuzu and the Sasuke again. Its looks as if this battle is going to be over soon so we should get to see the Sasuke, Naruto, Itachi meeting next.

I'll agree I have no idea what your talking about in the part sealed by the death god. I'm speaking of the second half of the power stored with the Frog that Jiraya sent to safety before going for Pain. He had the other half of the 9 tails power which Jiraya was using to power up Naruto when he went 4 tails and caused that massive scar.

So unless your talking about something completely unrelated to that which was stated as a legacy for Naruto he wasn't ready for yet I'm not sure what your referencing. There would be no reason to make sure Naruto got it if it wouldn't make him stronger if he found out how to use it and it wouldn't make sense it was merely the EVIL part of the 9 tails. It was stated atleast in the scan I read that Naruto only had half the 9 tails Chakra and more Chakra means you can do a lot more with your techniques and use more expensive techniques more often thus making you a lot stronger in general.

The second half of Naruto's power is not stored with the frog what the frog has is the key to release the seal in Naruto so he has complete access to the Kyuubi's power.

so you want to tell me that if ying and yang is split then the power of someone doesn't get harmed at all...so even if the fourth had destroyed the bad chakra there would be no harm done...then why didn't he do it?i don't think the mighty fourth who was able to do seal away the kyuubi in full strength couldn't destroy half of it's power...so my point is that naruto will get stronger if he attains the other half a kyuubi's chakra but that doesn't mean he will do it...also about the sasuke itachi fight who wouldn't like to see the fight between the all powerful sharingans(we still don't know how sasuke is gonna fight mangenkyou...maybe he got one himself)and who is going to win in that fight...maybe it's a draw

Ying and Yang doesn't necessarily mean he is going to be more powerful. Sure there is no doubt that he will be stronger but I think the ying chakra would give him more abilities. As far as it is now the Kyuubi chakra Naruto has seems to be only able to be used as raw energy, it isn't used in the sense of normal chakra as more of a physical attack, like rasengan or when the cloak surronds his body.. Splitting the ying and yang doesn't always mean that you just have half your chakra. In some animes mixes ying and yang provides balance not necessarily strength so if Naruto is unable to control the yang chakra because it is just raw power then he might be able to control the Kyuubi if he had both not that he is ever going to get the ying chakra back.

[mr3vi1m0nk3y]

I think the ying chakra sealed away by the death god is the "spiritual" part of Kyuubi's chakra. Remember in the beginning of the series its mentioned that chakra is split into two sides, spiritual and physical, and to get stronger you have to train your body for physical and meditate (not sure) for spiritual. Right now Naruto only has the physical part (yang) which might explain why he takes on the physical attributes of Kyuubi the more he uses it. If this is correct then I wonder what the effects of unsealing the other part of Kyuubi's chakra would have on Naruto's mind.

[chet_chetty]

does anyone also think that Jiraiya losing his arm is a blatant foreshadowing that Tsunade will be (the next) joining this battle. if Tsunade really wanted to join this battle, she would not need anything, let alone a sentry grog, to give her the word.

[Abdula]

I think the ying chakra sealed away by the death god is the "spiritual" part of Kyuubi's chakra. Remember in the beginning of the series its mentioned that chakra is split into two sides, spiritual and physical, and to get stronger you have to train your body for physical and meditate (not sure) for spiritual. Right now Naruto only has the physical part (yang) which might explain why he takes on the physical attributes of Kyuubi the more he uses it. If this is correct then I wonder what the effects of unsealing the other part of Kyuubi's chakra would have on Naruto's mind.

I seem to vaguely remember something like that being mentioned. Wouldn't it be wonderful if Naruto suddenly got a metal boast, not really. Anyway it is a good point but the does not unseal the other part of Naruto chakra. Naruto has the Kyuubi's yang chakra, Jiraiya used the key to loosen the seal so Naruto can now access up to four tails, the key would only release the rest of the nine tails yang chakra. That is what I got from what Jiraiya said, there is nothing to indicate that Naruto will get the ying chakra that the fourth sealed. I have no idea how he would be able to get it back from the shinigami because I was under the impression that once something was sealed with the shinigami it was trapped for good, at least that is what I got from the third's battle with Orochimaru.

does anyone also think that Jiraiya losing his arm is a blatant foreshadowing that Tsunade will be (the next) joining this battle.

Uh no, but anything is possible.