Naruto Chapter 378

[Genma]

I liked how this chapter's battle had some strategy, but the Rin'egan's ability didn't make a whole lot of sense to me. I mean, it would make sense, provided the Narutoverse didn't have things like shadow clones. Couldn't shadow clones accomplish the same thing minus the power transfer thing? I know shadow clones poof after being hit but... like... couldn't someone capable of doing it be able to make his vision 100% too?

For some reason I'd think the Byakugan would be superior if that was the case. If Neji makes three clones, it could take away his blind spot or something, and he'd also be able to see the chakra flows and all that.

Bleh, whatever. Hopefully they'll make the Rin'egan even more powerful, seeing as it's supposed to be the strongest eye.

[Assertn]

It was explicitly stated during Naruto's training that anything a shadow clone observes or experiences will only transfer back to the original body once that clone is dispersed.

Therefore you'd have to instantaneously clone and disperse any time you need an update on your surroundings.

In this chapter, it was also mentioned that not having to use chakra to accomplish this effect is one significant advantage that rinnegan has over byakugan, so this would probably be even more significant against the shadow clone strategy.

[dsh1202]

whats going on with konan during this whole fight between pein and Jiraiya, i know Jiriaya stopped her at the beginning of the fight but that jutsu he used must have worn off by now, Jiraiya might be winning (at the moment) against pein but he still might have to fight konan.

[Idealistic]

whats going on with konan during this whole fight between pein and Jiraiya, i know Jiriaya stopped her at the beginning of the fight but that jutsu he used must have worn off by now, Jiraiya might be winning (at the moment) against pein but he still might have to fight konan.

Tsunade is on her way.

[Abdula]

No she isn't, the hokage is not supposed to leave the village. I think it was obvious fromt the beginning that Konan didn't want to fight Jiraiya, he himself that she was always the soft hearted one.

[Idealistic]

No she isn't, the hokage is not supposed to leave the village.

Duh? That's the whole point. It would show how much Tsunade really cares about Jiraiya that she'd be willing to do such a thing.

[Abdula]

That doesn't make any sense why would she leave the village to save a 50 something year old man who specifically asked her not to, not to mention the fact that she would be putting the village at a tremendous risk and Shizune and the others would not allow her to leave. She doesn't even know where Jiraiya is and even if she did and she went there and got herself killed the village would be without a hokage again. I know she likes Jiraiya but they both accept that the time for that is long gone. Jiraiya is willing to put his life on the line to fight, not to mention the prophecy which led Jiraiya to believe he is responsible for Pein and thus he must be the one to stop him so I doubt he would accept help from Tsunade.

There are a lot more reasons why Tsunade leaving the village wouldn't make any sense including the fact that some of the villages strongest ninja, Kakashi, Naruto, Yamato and the rest are already outside the village but I think I made my point.

[dsh1202]

well tsuande probably wont come to save Jirayia, but with konan, whats gonna happen to her if pein is deafeated, will she all of the sudden come back to being a good guy and leave the akatsuki or maybe she'll just like run away. either way, i wanna see a Jiraiya vs konan fight. Konan was shown to have all these awsome oragami jutsus and i want to seem them used lol.

[Abdula]

First of all, Pein is not going to be defeated. Secondly it was explicitly stated that although Konan is an extremely capable ninja which is a requirement for being in Akatsuki she doesn't like to fight and she certainly didn't want to fight Jiraiya, the only reason she confronted Jiraiya was because Pein told her to.

He told her to kill Jiraiya if she could and she didn't even try all she did was delay him until Pein got there, I also got the impression that Konan still looked up to Jiraiya for taking care of them and teaching them but Pein is the one who said he had no more love for him and that he felt obligated to kill the intruder no matter who it was since he had already switched bodies.

Konan is a follower not a leader she is similar to Haku so I suspect when Pein is eventually defeated, whenever that is going to be, she will either do the clichéd thing and get killed by his opponent either before or after Pein is beaten or she will just disappear into obscurity.

I want to see Konan’s jutsus as well. I wanted to see all the Akatsuki members and their jutsus since they were first introduced. I suspect we will get to see her fight later against one of the leaf ninjas but I don’t know which one I would want her to fight.

[dsh1202]

if Jiriayia does get killed, i could see Konan killing or at least trying to kill pein out of sympathy for her old teacher, and if she did manage to kill pein if said scenario played out, she might go to tsuande and give the leaf village info on other ataksuki memebers then dissapear.

[Assertn]

if Jiriayia does get killed, i could see Konan killing or at least trying to kill pein out of sympathy for her old teacher, and if she did manage to kill pein if said scenario played out, she might go to tsuande and give the leaf village info on other ataksuki memebers then dissapear.

No matter how much Konan might care about Jiraiya, I'm sure she cares about Pein more.

[Abdula]

Yeah seriously, where the hell did that one come from. If she wanted to save Jiraiya she would have never found him for Pein and then went back to Pein and told him where Jiraiya was, she would have never confronted him and delayed him until Pein got there, and she would have never joined Akatsuki in the first place. I said she is like Haku so no matter what she personally wants or believes she is going to do what Pein says.

[KCMmmmm]

Wow. There's no need to be uncivil about this! I was under the impression that Konan had no chance against Jiraiya anyway, since him merely dousing her with oil neutralized her fighting abilities completely. Even if it wore off by now, that skirmish proved that she was no match for him.

I agree that whatever Pain might to do Jiraiya, Konan is unlikely to change her alliance. They have been together since before the series even started (timeline-wise), and unless some revelation about Pain/Nagato killing the third kid (forgot his name) comes up, they will stick together.

Besides....if Pain succeeds in finishing Jiraiya, as most people predicted several chapters ago, then we don't need to wonder whether Konan will fight him, since Pain explicitly commanded her to let them fight alone.

[dsh1202]

ok then, i was just stating a possible theory and a possible outcome.

[iMUSTbeTHEdevil]

Tsundae could still come. I mean in a land where people can change into anyone they want? Shizune and Tsundae could do a henge to look like one another and the Shizune could stay and pretend to be Tsundae until she got back. It is a possibility.

[toonice714]

i think jiriya will die fighting pein but not before pein unveils a lot of the secrets of the rin'nengan. this way the story can move forward by naruto meeting the great toad sage. This is turning out to be a great fight btw. Also......when are we going to see team shino do anything!?!? And i wanna see suigetsu fight more than anybody else! They just forgot all about team hebi. I wanna know whats soo great about them that sasuke went so far out of his way just to assemble them. Aside from karin's obvious tracking use.

[Abdula]

i wanna see suigetsu fight more than anybody else! They just forgot all about team hebi. I wanna know whats soo great about them that sasuke went so far out of his way just to assemble them.

I think we should get to see a nice three way confrontation between Hebi, The Leaf Ninja and Kisame and Itachi after this. That is only what I want to see though.

I wonder if Tobi is still sitting on top of the statue of Madara.

[KCMmmmm]

i think jiriya will die fighting pein but not before pein unveils a lot of the secrets of the rin'nengan. this way the story can move forward by naruto meeting the great toad sage. This is turning out to be a great fight btw. Also......when are we going to see team shino do anything!?!? And i wanna see suigetsu fight more than anybody else! They just forgot all about team hebi. I wanna know whats soo great about them that sasuke went so far out of his way just to assemble them. Aside from karin's obvious tracking use.

With the way the manga is pressing forward now, those chapters - all twenty or so of them - feel like needless filler.