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    Tsunade is exactly the kind of person who would keep such a tool around. Because she's lazy yet has lots of pride and also intelligence (at least sometimes). A capable person like Shizune removes some of her most boring work but at the same time takes care that Tsunade doesn't slip too far. As we have seen, Tsunade doesn't really keep Shizune in fear but actually tries to keep her bad habits in check when Shizune is around and work really would need to get done.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kraco
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    I agree whole heartedly. You'd think though, that with Danzou and the Konoha oldies on the council trying to limit Tsunade's actions in this episode, that maybe Shizne has something to do with it. But I full out think she honestly believes sending Naruto out on mission relating to Akatsuki is the wrong thing to do (btw, i agree with her). You can't quite tell if Shizune went over Tsunade's head, going to the Konoha councilmembers, or if they came to her and she was like, "Oh, I totally agree. We can't let Naruto get sent out on a mission like this."

    Either way, she is such a blindly loyal, unambitious character that I don't think much of her actions.

    also, i couldn't help but wonder where Danzou got all his injuries from... Probably in one of Konoha's wars? He looks like one tough motehrfucker.

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    Quote Originally Posted by masamuneehs
    also, i couldn't help but wonder where Danzou got all his injuries from... Probably in one of Konoha's wars? He looks like one tough motehrfucker.
    He was competing with The Third for the place of the Hokage right? That's gotta make him pretty strong, although we don't know how many years he's been out of action.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Psyke
    He was competing with The Third for the place of the Hokage right? That's gotta make him pretty strong, although we don't know how many years he's been out of action.
    Yeah, you'd think that if he was competing for the position of Hokage that they would have made him Hokage after Jiraiya turned them down.

    It's like, you know how the rest of the Naruto world is all badass ninjas and Konoha is a bunch of Lawful Good pussies? This guy strikes me as the kind of guy that wants Konoha to be more cutthroat.

    Of course, I'm totally talking out of my ass because the guy has bearly said two words so far.

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    one thing that Tsunade mentioned is that Danzou led a hard-line faction during the Third Hokage's era, but that that faction had collapsed... DB's very questionable translations say that, although Danzou was able to found the Root division of ANBU (which he commanded): "Root has been disbanded, and he (Danzou) has already fallen into disgrace".

    Now, regardless of the confusion about Root being disbanded or not (i mean, they just said that Sai is from Root, and so you imagine it's not entirely disbanded...) this pretty clearly implies that Danzou's power and political reputation in Konoha is less now than what it once was. So, considering this, it seems Danzou didn't have the support to be seriously considered for Hokage after the Third died...

    I don't really know... but Tsunade's reference to Danzou's hard-line party losing power and him being "in disgrace" makes me wonder if his downfall might have had something to do with the important events in Konoha history that we know of (the Uchiha massacre, the war against the Sand, the war against the Thunder, Orochimaru's defection).

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    Was he really competing against the Third? DB's subs say that he lead a party that was against the Third's policies, making him something like our opposition leader, but it doesn't say he was in anyway strong enough to compete for the title Hokage. Shikamaru shows his wit again, he didn't waste any time. While it looked like they were observing Naruto's fight, he sent out his shadow to assist.

    I didn't notice Sai's clothing much at all really. It's mostly in the ED that I tend to, and even then it's not making an impact anymore. This pissing Naruto off part, it's just as when Team Kakashi first started out, only difference being Sakura was drooling over Sasuke.

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    What? Shizune's a tool now? She's the main disciple of the Hokage. I think that is a pretty decent accomplishment in of itself. Besides, Sakura also holds respect and obedience towards Tsunade, so its not just Shizune.

    I think the real tools are those two chuunin that always get stuck doing bitch work like carrying boxes around or sitting and watching the main Konoha entrance.

    Edit: Was it just me, or did it seem like a few major points about Danzou had been left out of the anime?
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    Quote Originally Posted by AssertnFailure
    What? Shizune's a tool now? She's the main disciple of the Hokage. I think that is a pretty decent accomplishment in of itself. Besides, Sakura also holds respect and obedience towards Tsunade, so its not just Shizune
    Shizune has been following Tsunade since forever. During all those lousy gambling years. So, you could say she has beem tying her destiny to that of Tsunade no matter what she did. Thus, you can say she's a genuine minion.

    Sakura, however, is not tied to Tsunade in that sense. She's just learning medical skills from her. Other than that she's like any other chuunin around: Doing missions, living her own life, belonging to a team (that does not contain Tsunade).

    And those comedic paper carrying chuunin are even less connected to her. They are regular Konoha ninja who happen to be assigned to such a work. No doubt it's only a temporary period of their career.

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