He probably didn't know there was someone who was alive with that bloodline.Originally Posted by DB_Hunter
Which makes me think..... That since we all know Oro isn't dead yet, he will see the Rin'egan and then try to take over Pain's body!!
dun dun dun!
You people seem to be forgetting that Orochimaru's goal was to learn every jutsu in existence
something the Sharingan would have easily given him the ability to do.
Don't get too excited about Rin'negan most likely it is so highly regarded because it must be extremely rare.I mean up until Itachi the Sharingan and Byakugan were not only famous but also very common the latter of which still is.
While i may not be able to dispute the fact that it is the most powerful at the moment, i remind you that "POWER" especially in the Naruto world doesn't mean much. I mean its been said that the Byakugan is more powerful that Sharingan but i doubt a Hyuuga would stand a chance against an Uchiha simply because of the different abilities each doujutsu gives the user. Abilities>Power
It's never been said that the Byakugan is more powerful than the Sharingan, I'm pretty sure.
I believe this comes from the battle between Neji and Hinata (the introduction into the power of the Byakuugan), when Kakashi stated that "the Byakuugan's power of insight is greater than that of the Sharingan."
Meaning that the Byakuugan can see through objects, something that the Sharingan cannot (or only has limited ability) to do. It has never been formally stated which is more powerful...but based on what we've seen, I would assume the Sharingan to be the more powerful of the two.
Byakuugan allows the user to see through objects - with only a single blind spot in a 360° range, without even turning their head. It also allows them to see chakra currents (as well as organs) within the body. The final major ability of Byakuugan is that it seems to help enable the user to better manipulate their own chakra stream....culminating in the ability to focus at specific points and interrupt another's stream by injecting their own chakra into it.
Sharingan can see chakra - though not as detailed as Byakuugan. It can also be used to cast Genjutsu - with and without the Mangekyou power-up. It's ability to break down all actions in near-slow-motion allows the user to see and even copy any jutsu automatically (which is why Orochimaru wanted it). This is not even to mention the abilities it is given with the Mangekyou upgrade.
So...Byakuugan and Sharingan are completely different, and neither is an extension of the other.
Apparently, no one thought the animal Pein summoned was a chameleon?
edit: oh wait, TwisT did. He snuck it in the second monster paragraph. My bad.
Well considering it had claws and looked like it shot out bubbles....
And the thing about Byakugan is that it isnt as effective unless you learn juuken (gentle fist palm fighting style of the Hyuuga clan) Of course, Byakugan will let you be alot more aware of the things around you and let you spy on others but other than that, I dont really see Byakugan as a useful combat tool if you cant spit out huge amounts of chakra through your palm to damage other people's inner organs.
Sharingan has so many abilities that it seems unfair :
- gives chakra different color/ chakra vision
- Jutsu copying function
- ability to predict/see incoming movements (taijutsu)
- genjutsu power
- Mangekyu Sharingan abilities
- and the nifty ability to turn it off while Byakugan users are stuck with a huge white eye =)
but from watching the entire series, it leads me to believe that the sharingan is more chakra tiring, especially when the MS is activated.
But I do know that Byakugan can't tell the real bunshin from a group of kage bunshins but I dont remember if Sharingan could or not (it was during the Chuunin exam when Sasuke tried to see the real bunshin from the ninjas attacking them in the forest)
My guess is that a
Beginner level Byakugan user > Beginner level Sharingan user
Medium level Byakugan user < Medium level Sharingan user
Expert Byakugan user <<<<<<< Expert Sharigan user
But I guess this all depends on the situation of the fight, the abilities used, and the chakra, strategy and all that.
Why do people keep comparing Sharingan and Byakugan for. So what if one is the evolution of the other? The two of them are almost, if not COMPLETELY different.
And with what February said, it's pretty much safe to say Sharingan > Byakugan. You lose striking Chakra points and seeing into the distance, but you gain so much more.
The whole point of my post was to highlight the differences between the two so that people would stop comparing them. Although, I like how you followed your complaint about people's tendency to compare the two by immediately doing just that.
just a few things i wanna comment on. a few posts back someone said that oro couldn't have known about the renigan or whatever, but the eyes are clearly visible in the hologram of the akatsuki leader nearly everytime we've seen him, so oro must have known.
second, sharingan > renigan. as much as i hate to say it, its true. sure, they said that renigan was the most feared of the 3 eye techniqus, but becuz kishimoto gets an orgasm every time he see's a sharingan, it'll always be the better of the 3, despite what the 'real' case may be. Its the reason paine is taking orders from uchiha madara.....no matter what happens, somehow a sharingan user (ie: and uchiha) will come out on top....its fucking retarded.
I dont think its confirmed that the sharingan is one of the 3 eyes. The bolded part of your paragraph makes it seem like you were talking about the sharingan as one of the three eyes. In fact, its probably unlikely that it is.
Sharingan deserves to be orgasmic....its badass. (excuse my fanboyness) .
Do you even read the manga? How painfully obvious was it when the Rinnegan was introduced as the strongest of the 3 Doujutsu eyes, that the other two were Byakugan and Sharingan? What would be the point of introducing another 2 Doujutsu types when there are already 2 famous, and extremely potent doujutsus.
Just because they didnt introduce the other possible eye bloodlines doesnt mean they don't exist. And just because they're famous doesnt mean they are the other 2 eye types.
And also, byakugan doesnt have doujutsus.
And yes, I do read the manga
EDIT: Spelling
Just because they didn't introduce possible byakugan doujutsus doesn't mean they don't exist.
There are also 25 tailed demons in Naruto, they just haven't been introduced yet. Just wait.
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dude, you're a fucking idiot. you honestly think they were talking about some completely new set of eye bloodlines, and NOT the 2 that we've been introduced to?
Besides, it was my understanding that doujutsu meant 'eye technique". I believe kakashi mentions it during team 7's first mission, when they encounter the 2 mist nin hiding in the puddle.
So when Hinata and Neji say 'Byakugan' and veins pop out around their eyes and their vision expands to be telescopic and panoramic you don't consider that an eye technique.
Also, In reference to your post about expert Sharingan users being better than expert Byakugan users, we've only really seen Neji fight a serious life threatening battle, we've never seen his uncle face an opponent that would make him push his Byakugan to the limit. There's no way to know how much more he might be able to do or if the Byakugan has deep secrets of its own and knowing Kishi we will probably never find out. However, there has to be a reason the Hyuuga's are considered nobility while the Uchiha's were generally just highly respected civil servants.
EDIT: Nothing has been revealed so far that can distinguish a shadow clone from an original since shadow clones are living physical bodies and the only difference between them and the original is that they disintegrate upon being struck. But I I wouldn't put it past Kishi to give the Rin'negan the ability to tell them apart somehow.
Last edited by Yukimura; Thu, 10-18-2007 at 09:28 AM.
Just to clear up some terms:
忍術 - Ninjutsu - Ninja arts/technique
体術 - Taijutsu - Body/physical technique
幻術 - Genjutsu - Illusion arts/technique
瞳術 - Doujutsu - Eye techniques
呪印術 - Juuinjutsu - Curse techniques
封印術 - Fuuinjutsu - Sealing techniques
"Our hearts are full of memories but not all of them reflect the truth. The heart isn't a recording device. Even important memories change with time. They warp or fade, leaving us with but a shadow of what we hoped to remember." 天の道を行き、全てを司る。これは僕の世界。
Thank you. We've needed this for a long time.Just to clear up some terms:
忍術 - Ninjutsu - Ninja arts/technique
体術 - Taijutsu - Body/physical technique
幻術 - Genjutsu - Illusion arts/technique
瞳術 - Doujutsu - Eye techniques
呪印術 - Juuinjutsu - Curse techniques
封印術 - Fuuinjutsu - Sealing techniques
I think we should drop the Byakuugan/Sharingan dispute. It always comes down to individual ability. Itachi would still be a genius and a badass without Sharingan. The point is to make do with what you have. Accent your strengths to counterbalance your weaknesses. That sort of thing.
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