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    Oh yes her voice.. I really can't stand it, it made me skip some parts. For someone who wanted to go fishing, Sana really sucks big time.

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    Indeed he does. But at least it's not due to lack of trying.

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    Aoi´s voice sounds so artificial. Is it made with computer? Really annoying in this episode >_<

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    It's not really that bad. Tomoko Kaneda is capable of being much more annoying. If you think her high-pitched screeches are bad in Myself; Yourself, watch her play Renge in AirMaster.

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    Lol Renge was awesome, she even had mystical tracking powers. Anyway, Aoi's mom is pretty darn cool, it's not everyday you see a mom fondling her daughter and then making her a cake. Sensei was a bit of a disappointment, I was hoping she wouldn't need to be snapped out of an emo fit by Sana as well but I guess she just cared too much to let it go.

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    Lol Renge was awesome, she even had mystical tracking powers. Anyway, Aoi's mom is pretty darn cool, it's not everyday you see a mom fondling her daughter and then making her a cake. Sensei was a bit of a disappointment, I was hoping she wouldn't need to be snapped out of an emo fit by Sana as well but I guess she just cared too much to get over it.

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    Ep13, Xvid for now..

    http://www.mininova.org/get/1068896

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    It's a bit sad everything important has been stuffed at the far end like this.
    But well, this ends the drama.
    Strange that Nanaka chooses the same method as Sana.

    They really need to have a full lenght aftermath ep for every show...
    Last edited by David75; Wed, 12-26-2007 at 05:25 PM.

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    Hmm, well this ends one of the most highlighted series this season. Final thoughts: I liked this. Nanaka's speech sums it all up. The ending wasn't quite as emotional as Shuu's leaving IMO, but it ends well nonetheless. As David says, it explains a lot of things. Who started the fire, why Nanaka saved the violin, but never played it again, and confirms our accurate guess of what's underneath Sana's watch. Also did the "ten years later" thing that I suspected. Asami wanted to save the national park in place of Shuri. Speaking of Shuri, I found it strange that they're still holding hands ten years later. I thought it was an emotional kinda thing that happened because they didn't want to be separated, but now, they're like, late 20s. Maybe they really DO have a thing for each other. If that's the case, then it adds a bit more meaning to why Shuu kept looking at his sister when asked about his ideal woman. I'd say this ending did do the series justice, unlike some other ones of late, and earns itself a high rank in my books.

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    Hmmm Nanaka's mother surely deserve the beating. She just went all out.. Didn't even care to apologize.. An okay ending for me. Not bad nor great. I wonder what happened to the twins? The must have kids now,, hehe

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    They did pull a nice bait and switch on the viewers. All this time we kept thinking the uncle had done it, and he even mentioned that he was suspected at one point. I have to commend them for that. The twists in the story were incredibly abrupt, and you really couldn't expect any of them (excepting Sana's wristwatch...which was obvious).

    But it's the curse of the black blood and time constraints that ultimately sours this series for me. There's no impact when the blood is black. The two shots of Sana and Nanaka in the bathtubs should have been very disturbing, but when it looks like they just spilled a can of oil, it's hard to feel anything. I know it's something we're all just going to have to get used to, but even the first show that was forced to censor the blood (School Days) had no shading, and it was so harsh that the impact was still there, perhaps even intensified. Here, I felt cheated.

    They also kept up the twincest angle. That's commitment I guess. A little odd that they never showed their faces, and were discretely sitting way in the back during the epilogue. Hoshino's cruel little joke became reality.

    The time constraints is what really gets me though. Two and a half episodes on Hinako, though entertaining at times, drag the series down. Sure, she's cute and all, adds to the comedy relief, but she ultimately had zero impact on the story. They could have used one episode to lead us into Hoshino's betrayal, deepened some of Nanaka's emotional scarring right at the beginning or after the mailbox episode. Given some resolution on the twin's household, their cuckolded asshole father, and their bitch of a step-mother. Given Aoi a storyline...the list goes on.

    I'm glad for an epilogue, but they could have done so much more with this series and the last 5 episodes have been more or less a total train wreck.

    Started as my favorite series of the season, but just falls short.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ryllharu
    They did pull a nice bait and switch on the viewers. All this time we kept thinking the uncle had done it, and he even mentioned that he was suspected at one point. I have to commend them for that. The twists in the story were incredibly abrupt, and you really couldn't expect any of them (excepting Sana's wristwatch...which was obvious).
    Hmmm not really... When I saw the flashback with Nanaka's violin teacher, I always though that there was something suspicious about it. And when her mother came to the room I got the idea that there was an affair between her mother and the teacher. There is also a hunch that Nanaka's father was the arsonist. That is why I'm not surprise about the revelation and all..

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    Now that everyone has had time to watch...
    I feel it's a bit too much in a one ep span.
    And I find extremely strange someone would be so violent with their wife without any hints of this potential violence before.
    I mean, it's possible she's dead even before he starts the fire. In a way, this scene is more violent than the suicide ones with false blood color.
    I wonder how it would be possible that someone becomes so violent out of the blue.
    Plus they were all kindergarten friends.

    They didn't care to explain how they got married too. It's only an hyptohesis that she was two timing him. Although it's a sound one, there's always the possibility the wedding was very quickly set since they knew each other for so long.

    I'll maybe have to rewatch it, because when watching this ep, I had forgotten how nanaka's mother looked like and had forgotten about the violin teacher.

    Regarding suspicions the police had, I wonder why. Because everything was in the scene: Lighter, oil, oil tank. And the way oil was spilled, the way oil started to burn are all details forensyc have easy access to. They probably would even know the state of nanaka's mother and father when the fire started... So there should have been no suspicions at all.

    However, although this ep was too much of a contraction, I liked it.
    I was really eager for Sana to enter the bathroom quicker, as I thought he was
    already too late to save Nanaka.

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    Well that was rather abrupt the last couple episides of this series just tried to do way to much in way to little time. Overall I liked the series and the twists as a whole were well done. The issue is to many of them lacked any sort of foreshadowing and well I don't like unresolved twincest.

    I've got to agree with basically all the points everyone has made and I personally feel this series should have been given the full 26 or atleast 24 episodes to better flesh out the situation.

    I'm still a bit stuck on the twins I mean not showing faces and not having the vast majority of the characters even notice each other seems rather out of place. On top of that what was Sana doing with his teacher from 10 years previous when he made no attempt to contact any of his you know life long friends?

    The black blood did slightly damage things for me but not even close to as much as how they were just slamming twists into place for the end and never showing any real resolution. The crazy old lady tried to murder someone and it should have been obvious she killed the pets by that point so why do we get no solid resolution of the event despite having several episodes of buildup for it.

    Also why on earth did Hoshino cling to Sana like she did if she was suppose to be a lesbian obsessed with Shuri... It makes perfect sense that she would use Sana to get invited to group things but it really doesn't fit the amount of blatant advances she made towards him if that was her goal.

    Anyway for all my minor complaints this was a good series likely about a 7-8 on a 10 point scale. Had it been a full season show it would have more then likely reached 9+ status but to much rushing of important matters and to much forced comic relief with loli characters wasted the time the last few episodes sorely needed.

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    Quote Originally Posted by oyabin
    Hmmm not really... When I saw the flashback with Nanaka's violin teacher, I always though that there was something suspicious about it. And when her mother came to the room I got the idea that there was an affair between her mother and the teacher. There is also a hunch that Nanaka's father was the arsonist. That is why I'm not surprise about the revelation and all..
    Yeah, all things shown only in this episode. That's my point, and what I had said. All we had to go on up until then was the silhouette in the OP and a few of Nanaka's flashbacks. None of which showed the violin teacher, none of which showed what her father looked like, and none of which related anything about any relationship between them. It was all kept secret until this episode. Before, we'd only know the uncle's silhouette looks the same as the one in the OP.
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    Well, everything has been said.
    Ok ending, ok series.
    It really feels out of place now how much screen time they gave to Hinako, and how quick the main story was finished off.

    And Aoi´s voice didnt suit her near 30 year old-self at all. She sounds like a grandma at that point.

    After all, i liked School Days better, because it´s middle episodes caused a lot of discussions ^^ and the ending was just awsome. The best episode of Myself Yourself probably was the Twincest-episode (lol, what a name), because of that sad goodbye-scene.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MFauli
    Well, everything has been said.
    The best episode of Myself Yourself probably was the Twincest-episode (lol, what a name), because of that sad goodbye-scene.
    Yeah, this ending lacked emotion, but I didn't end up hating the ending. Has anyone played the game here? I'm wondering if they wanted to show this series' happenings in the same way as the game. Might help explain the timing of everything.

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    Nanaka's mother truly was a bitch. Can't blame the husband for cracking her skull wide open. She brought it on herself.

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    True. There are so many ways of handling that living room fight without it ending up in murder suicide.
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    Quote Originally Posted by shinta|hikari
    True. There are so many ways of handling that living room fight without it ending up in murder suicide.
    Next question would be wy did she act this way, and did not even try to calm him when he started beating her...

    I guess that she did this because her true love was dead and she didn't even care what would happen.

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