Well, its not uncommon for objects to conjure bad memories. He may have tried to commit suicide, but that doesn't mean he remembers this moment fondly. It seems like he's wants to forget whatever happened to him.Originally Posted by Kraco
Honestly, I think our protagonist suffers from sorts of depression. After the suicide, his parents thought it would be best for him to relocate and give him a fresh start (word travels fast in school, it would tough to be "the cutter" kid)
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I like it when Nanaka and Sana gets along.
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Seems Nanaka has plenty of baggage as well, I'd wager her parents died in a fire, possibly indirectly b/c of her. She's handling it pretty well in general but poor ignorant Sana will eventually crack open the wall she's put her memories behind if no one tells him what he's whacking away at every time he talks to her about her old self.
I was very happy that Nanaka seemed to accept Sana's explanation about Hoshino and didn't get too upset over the Yeti-kun incident, I'm sure she's storing it all up, but on the outside at least she shows a lot more coping ability than many other anime girls would in similar situations.
I do agree that Nanaka's parents died in a fire, but I think the reason Nanaka is so hung up over it is related to the violin. Since violin's normally dont start fires (as far as I know), I think Nanaka tried to come back to a burning house to save her's which resulted in her parents trying to save her, ending in their death.
Peace.
No one wants to discuss the creepy old lady Kaji? Not only is she easily confusing her deceased granddaughter with Nanaka, she may want to kill either her or someone else according to the old legends to get her lost granddaughter back. She came back covered in dirt one time, and the bird was gone. Now there's the scene with the cat right at the end.
It seems strange for a series that has mostly love-comedy elements, especially since the episodes before and after this are Hinako episodes.
Nanaka really shined this episode though. Embarrassedly pretending she saw Hoshino and Sana just as they were walking out (and ending up going the other way on the street), getting scared from the raccoon, Nanaka dousing herself before the dance...
I just hate it when the art starts to become crap. Consistency in quality is probably what separates good romcoms (kanon, clannad) from the usual spiel. At least this show has some interesting elements, particularly the tsundere as the main character rather than the side one. Im tired of the dumb clumsy sweet girl as the main girl lead in ANY story.
Peace.
Maybe all those years of exposure to ancient customs, plus the shock and sorrow of losing her granddaughter caused Kaji to really believe burying someone alive will make your wish come true. Wonder how she got the idea that a bird was the same as a person though, assuming she went out that night to bury that bird. Falling collar doesn't look too good for the cat either.
The cleansing before the ritual was nice.
I hope they really do develop this with Kaji, instead of hinting something and moving one. Well, that depends on what they move on to, I guess.
Prejudiced much?"Good" romcoms are both listed as KyoAni series. It's not all about pretty visuals and consistent quality. The first Kanon was utterly mediocre, even with the plot largely the same from the KyoAni version. The difference was in an additional 10 episodes, KyoAni was able to do the story the right way, taking time to properly develop each of the heroines.
Writing is what makes a good romantic comedy. Take a look at SHUFFLE!. Ever play the source material? It's very, very bland. Shuffle wasn't able to hold out in terms of visual quality, and it knew it was little more than an ecchi series. Yet, it was able to capitalize on storyline by expanding Primula's story with its loose connection to both Asa's and Nerine's, and integrating Kaede, Sia's, and Asa's.
Or take a look at Bokura ga Ita. I'd hesitate to call it a romantic comedy, but the writing is what makes the series superb, not the visuals.
In the end, I'm not sure where your complaint is coming from, I didn't notice any drop in quality in episode 5.
Wah, the trivial smalltalk in this episode was a bit too much for my likings ^^
Also, i hate it when they make a 10 year old girl looking sexy. Forgot the name, but she doesant look any different from Shuri, only she´s smaller, lol.
The scene with the old woman was great, though i´d have expected Nanaka to behave a lot differently....like running out of the room or apologizing although she didnt anything wrong. Looking forward to next episode.
Looks like there'll be plenty of that in this episode.
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And a question to those who've been watching the h.264 versions, are they HD, or up-scales?
They're from a 720p source, as the lines are all still very clean. The encoding is dramatically better as well. I highly recommend replacing them.
I've watched a bit of the first ep in youtube.
Regarding Nanaka, there's really something dark and hidden...
Why do I say so after only one ep?
The very first scene she's in after Sana's come back, there's a crow and crow feathers falling near her.
I don't know for Japan culture, but in many countries of the world, crows are a very dark reference... mainly unhapiness, becoming unlucky, sometimes evil. Probably all related to the fact they are carrion birds (is that the correct term? I meant birds eating on dead bodies).
I think I'll dl the eps available and come back here after I watched all the backlog.
All the things I really like to do are either illegal, immoral, or fattening. And then: Golf.
You're sort of right. Carrion's the dead animals they eat. The birds themselves are called scavengers. I'll go back to that ep when I have time. Hints dropping from the first ep aye?
I'll consider updating to 720p towards the end of my billing month too, when I've got quota to spare. Keeping the Xvids though, since I've had no success encoding mkv with subs to MPEG-2. The subs always look like they're displayed in 400x300 resolutions. Not sure if conventional DVDs even support a 720p encoding.
Back on the episode, the preview's pretty creepy. We see Nanaka following some instructions/address to a more quite side of town, an old house in fact. Then she goes to some temple sort of area, and the red sky and dark clouds in the background make it all gloomy and mysterious. The Cat/Bird lady is back. Don't know if there'll be any more animal sacrifices, or human ones for that matter.
I've been watching the first ep a second time, and the crow scene has a little more.
We see the crow, moving head. Sana sees the crow. The crow takes-off flying in the direction of Nanaka. It loses 3 or four feathers falling in front of Nanaka. Sana has seen Nanaka thanks to this crow.
Maybe I'm focusing on something really unimportant, but that scene really struck me for its very powerful symbol.
I was writing last time about the bad side of the wrow symbol. It seems that in other cultures, crows are messengers for the dead, sometimes play a role in the passage from the world of the living to the world of the dead. I won't speak of the movie and tv show with those subjects, eventhough they rely on some bits and pieces from different cultures.
Enough for this subject, I watched all the eps available so far. I can't tell what this show really is about. Mild ecchi, some humour, a bit of a harem, a bit of lolicon.
Then there are these little scenes that are not linked to the styles above:
The crow scene
The scene when the old lady mistakes Nanaka for her dead granddaughter
The scene with this same old lady having her hand covered in soil
The scene with someone (old lady again?) watching Nanaka's Sakura dance with what seems to be flasbacks.
We haven't been given a reason why there were no one wanting to perform the Sakura
dance for ten years. And the story about the buring of living people under cherry trees may let us think that something creepy happened ten years ago.
All the things I really like to do are either illegal, immoral, or fattening. And then: Golf.
In anime, the crow is typically used because the sound of its call is reminiscent of the the word "ahou" = moron.
It could mean more than that here, but Sana was a moron for not recognizing her in the first place.
I dont really blame him though. First off, people's faces change quite a bit when they grow up, especially the time that they were separated. The reason why he remembered the others is because they didnt change much (at least their basic personality and atmosphere) compared to Nanaka. Sure she was quiet before, but not as sullen and angry-looking like now. Sana had to mistake her for someone else, even if only to emphasize the fact that something DID happen and changed Nanaka drastically.
Peace.
Thanks for this explanation.
Does the meaning still remains strong if the crow remains silent?
Well I guess my point was weak if this crow was just meant to mean Sana is a moron for not being able to recognize Nanaka, and for the way he will handle females in the future.
All the things I really like to do are either illegal, immoral, or fattening. And then: Golf.
Generally, it's a comedic thing, and very obvious. The crows are usually drawn in a specific style. Here, I drew one:
I'd assume this isn't what they're going for here.
I looked at it from a more basic level. Sana looked around at something that caught his attention. It was the movement of the crow. It moved into the line of sight between Sana and Nanaka. Yeah, you can usually tell if the crow means death or moron. Occasionally I've seen them to mean death, but it's usually them flying in circles above a scene like vultures, or perched on some form of bone, blink (close up here), then fly off, leaving a feather or two, and the characters move into the screen.
Yes I remember, was very common in the anime of my childhood (city hunter, ranma, dragonball I think, Lum -lamu-, etc...)Generally, it's a comedic thing, and very obvious. The crows are usually drawn in a specific style. Here, I drew one:
I'd assume this isn't what they're going for here.
The crow in the scene I mention was a real one and not presented this way. Bufalobiian probably described it better than I did.
Well I guess the scenarists had a slow motion in mind for this probable dark background, so we'll just have to wait and see.
All the things I really like to do are either illegal, immoral, or fattening. And then: Golf.
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