There was that one time when Tsunade caught him peeping at her in the bathhouse, as well. So, three times?Originally Posted by poopdeville
There was that one time when Tsunade caught him peeping at her in the bathhouse, as well. So, three times?
Keeping up with his reasoning of becoming powerful to protect the whole country, maybe he did take the eye from a fallen Uchiha, having heard about the legacy of Uchiha Madara and the power he possessed. This would fit in with Tobi saying "The power of Uchiha Madara is mine!" without meaning that he is actually him. It would also fit in with trying to better Nagato's doujutsu if he was jealous and wanted to be the all-powerful saviour rather than being surpassed by someone he thought of as inferior.
It's all grasping at straws though.
I think I know precisely what I mean
when I say it's a schpadoinkle day
Wow, I completely skipped that part.
That 'saliva like substance' was oil.
Thanks for responding! Yeah, I agree - it's thin, but I'm enjoying the fact that, even while Naruto seems to have been wrapping up all of its secrets, it still leaves a couple new ones here and there. This chapter is the first in a while on which I've seen so much speculation.
I like this idea in principle. It has a lot of explanatory power. But if this is true, it makes it really obvious that Itachi is a member of Roots.
Ohgawd, I half hope this theory isn't right, because then it'd give all the more reason to have Tobi be Obito... just with Madara's eyes.
The theory of the Fourth Hokage being Naruto's father has already been proven, so I desperately hope Tobi being Obito doesn't turn out to be true as well.
But hey, if Tobi is just plain Tobi with Madara's eye(s), I'd be fine with that.
No, no. The theory in question is whether there is a possibility that Tobi is Yahiko, with an Uchiha eye.Ohgawd, I half hope this theory isn't right, because then it'd give all the more reason to have Tobi be Obito... just with Madara's eyes.
The theory of the Fourth Hokage being Naruto's father has already been proven, so I desperately hope Tobi being Obito doesn't turn out to be true as well.
But hey, if Tobi is just plain Tobi with Madara's eye(s), I'd be fine with that.
It just occured to me that simply because the Rin'egan is the most powerful of the three eye techniques doesn't make the user invincible. Afterall, Shodaime without any eye bloodline limit was able to defeat Madara, and Chiyo Ba from the Sand also talked about how you can fight someone with the Sharingan. It seems to me that Naruto may finally be heading towards a climactic battle which is more than just 'power levels' but may actually involve some strategy and plotting,
That makes sense, which is good (no dbz-like naruto).
But theoretically it should be obvious (hello, ninjas).
We did see Naruto owning Neji after all... and that was literally years ago
The only reason I'd even consider that Tobi is Yahiko is if Rinnegan is indeed superior to sharingan yet Pain still accepts Tobi as the true leader. If it turns out the Madara's power has always been the strongest afterall, then we're still back at square one.
10/4/04 - 8/20/07
Yea but that bit at the end of one of the chapters, where Tobi is on Madara's statue thinking about Sasuke seems out of place for him to be Yahiko. What would Yahiko want with Sasuke? With Madara or another Uchiha you could understand, as it would be some sort of clan thing.
The bodies Pein use are of dead people right? Isnt the spiky haired guy hes in at the beginning Yahiko?
Yes, because if two people have spiky hair of the same color, then they must be the same person.
wow, there is even a stronger eye than the sharingan - the GODMODEGAN.
maybe the the eye has the potentiel to be the strongest, but only when combined with the nine beasts (the eye is level on, and each beast represents a new level of eye skills).
still, I don't care.
also, maybe the three eyes aren't nesscery, NGGODGAN, Sharingan and the byakougan, maybe there's another eye skill, since the sharingan is colored as gazzilion times stronger than the byakougan...
anyway, I now hate Payne as well, at least until they say that he really is yahiko whos made a bitch out of nagato. which probably isn't the case.
from your post, i suspect you are tired of kishi making bloodline eyes extremely godly and powerful...but it should be powerful because they are bloodline powers, and that secret has been heavily guarded from generation to generation (i.e. hyuuga clan) I personally think that the addition of these eyes into the Naruto ninja world has been brilliant
sharingan is an evolution of the byakugan, evolution is means of adapting and usually better fit to survive, which shows why sharingan is portrayed stronger than the byakugan, so its not unreasonable to show that the sharingan is indeed stronger and more useful than the byakugan
you have misread me. my bad, I wasn't very clear with my earlier post.
I was raising the option that maybe Byakougan isn't one of these three godly eyelines (since, as you said, the sharingan grew from it), and so there is a possibilty that we'll be introduced to another super eyeline. which I would hate to see happenning.
as for the bloodlines powers... we first had sharingan - which came out to be badassly strong, but still, not perfect. then we had Haku's ice bloodline, which was pretty strong, until it lost to sheer chackra power (at that time, I don't think it was even that much power), later, we see Byakougan, which was beaten a few months later. stage one.
than we see MSharingan, super genjutsu, super flame. two years later it becomes a supreme genjutsu (just hearing a shadow can cast you into a genjutsu, despite being an eye skill) with time/space blasting abilities.
in comes tobi/madare. who other than living has been portrayted as the ultimate ninja, since he has the sharingan. we haven't seen him fight anyone that matters, but just becuase he got the eyes, we assume that he is invincible.
now Payne / Nagato. we never saw him fight, we have no idea what his eyes do, but we know that he is the most powerful ninja ever becuase he has the ~godmodegan.
it's a one trick pony thing. the only one who gets to fight with brain is shikamaru, and that's since Kishi dumbs down his enemies on a regular basis.
Well....in addition to that....mythologies have always regarded doujutsus (eye jutsus) to be the most powerful of jutsus.
10/4/04 - 8/20/07
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