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    hey so...

    Can someone take the time to explain to me why all the Arrancar, have like a Spanish theme. The names. I have no idea if Huenco Menco is a spanish phrase not sure i spelled it right just recalling from memory.
    Its just the music that plays seems to be of Spanish origin, the released forms lean that way as well.

    Still watching Episode now. Pretty Urahara let the 3 friends in to follow see them off, its like a further acknowledgement that the 3 friends could develop powers on their own if trained and having their spirit sense grown.

    Oh YEAH! why does Chad and Ishida not pop a spirit pill to release out of their human forms as well!

    Fatness Aizen just asked Orihime to heal Grimmjow! Heh not sure if she can do it just saw him ask and paused the episode! Fatness! hotness! Go Go Powerup Grimmjow!

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    Dude why are you having a conversation with yourself?

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    Quote Originally Posted by AngryGumball
    hey so...

    Can someone take the time to explain to me why all the Arrancar, have like a Spanish theme. The names. I have no idea if Huenco Menco is a spanish phrase not sure i spelled it right just recalling from memory.

    Urahara let the 3 friends in to follow see them off, its like a further acknowledgement that the 3 friends could develop powers on their own if trained and having their spirit sense grown.

    The "All Hollows are Mexicans" thing: I don't think there's any explanation offered for this... Kubo seemed to just think it was a clever theme to have a bunch of Spanish words and music inserted into his story... Also, Hueco Mundo means "Hollow World".

    I highly doubt the Tatsuki, Keigo, or that other guy are going to develop much power. And if they do, it will take a major backseat to the 'supporting main characters' we already have. This is clearly a story centered on Ichigo, and even Chad and Ishida haven't gotten half the screen time he has. As much as I like Tatsuki, I think she just remains a minor background figure...

    Humans are different from animals. We must die for a reason. Now is the time for us to regulate ourselves and reclaim our dignity. The one who holds endless potential and displays his strength and kindness to the world. Only mankind has God, a power that allows us to go above and beyond what we are now, a God that we call "possibility".

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    Quote Originally Posted by AngryGumball
    hey so...

    Can someone take the time to explain to me why all the Arrancar, have like a Spanish theme. The names. I have no idea if Huenco Menco is a spanish phrase not sure i spelled it right just recalling from memory.
    Its just the music that plays seems to be of Spanish origin, the released forms lean that way as well.

    Still watching Episode now. Pretty Urahara let the 3 friends in to follow see them off, its like a further acknowledgement that the 3 friends could develop powers on their own if trained and having their spirit sense grown.

    Oh YEAH! why does Chad and Ishida not pop a spirit pill to release out of their human forms as well!

    Fatness Aizen just asked Orihime to heal Grimmjow! Heh not sure if she can do it just saw him ask and paused the episode! Fatness! hotness! Go Go Powerup Grimmjow!
    Ichigo now has three forms: human, shinigami, and vizard. Ishida is just ishida and chad is just chad. Their human forms has spiritual energy but Ichigo doesnt. He's just a normal human being in his normal form.

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    Almost normal. He can sense reiatsu even in his normal human body. That alone is already above normality.

  6. #26
    Quote Originally Posted by DB_Hunter
    If you check ep 41 in the SS arc, the bit where Ukitake and Byakya are talking about Ichigo infront of them, I'm sure that's a reference to Ichigo's dad.
    Wasn't the consensus that that comment was about Kaien? Byakuya commented on the resemblance to 'that person' being striking or some such. Ichigo looks a lot more like Kaien than he does like his dad and Ichigo's family name was not mentioned in front of Ukitake until later if I remember correctly.

    As for Orihime, Aizen said she can reject events, which limits her power to the past. She could probably negate all of existence but I don't think she can't create directly new events that never happened. And all this stuff is rolled into her second shield which only rejects what's inside it. I wonder now if her first shield, which rejects what's outside of it, has some deeper powers as well. Maybe with some training she'll be able to make it so that anything that hits the first shield simply ceases to exist.
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    If Orihime's only power is reversing time on things, how does her attack fairy work?

    Is it like, "I reverse time to a point before you existed, but only in a tiny little spot"?

    I think when Aizen was describing her power he was only talking about the one healing ability. Not the other two.

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    Ulqiorra described it as 'turning back time' and the big fat Vaizard healer described his ability along the same lines. Aizen however, points out that it's more like she's rejecting all of reality, whether it be events in the past (wounds) or in the present (attacks).

    actually, i'm pretty sure he also was talking at least about her shield ability. They flashed a flashback of her blocking Yammy's punch with her shield while Aizen was talking. And, if you think about it, it makes sense that at least the shield and the healing abilities are "rejections of reality". Essentially, with the shield, she's jumping in front of a massive attacking power and saying "No! You will not cause any harm with this!". Normally, someone stupid enough to do this would be insta-crushed...

    That's why I wondered that, now she knows how her ability works, if she will gain more confidence in herself, allowing her shield to 'reject' stronger attacks. Hell, maybe even that little attack guy will get stronger if she really screws up the courage to 'reject the other person's existence'.

    My real question is:
    Why the fuck did this ability manifest as hair barrettes that turn into talking fairies? And what's with the magic words too?

    It would have been much cooler if Inoue just jumped out there, put her hands out, and out of nowhere people's attacks would stop. If she put her hands on someone, and they started getting healed. People would be like "What the living fuck is going on?" instead of, "Oh, yeah, lame fairies, of course!"

    Humans are different from animals. We must die for a reason. Now is the time for us to regulate ourselves and reclaim our dignity. The one who holds endless potential and displays his strength and kindness to the world. Only mankind has God, a power that allows us to go above and beyond what we are now, a God that we call "possibility".

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    Or she could like encase some sucker in it, and turn back to the time when he was a zygote and curb stomp him or something.

  10. #30
    Quote Originally Posted by masamuneehs
    My real question is:
    Why the fuck did this ability manifest as hair barrettes that turn into talking fairies? And what's with the magic words too?
    Because this is the world of Japanese animation, and since it was going to be a woman's power it couldn't be cooler than a guy's.

    Besides, didn't her brother gift her these hair pins? Then technically, it isn't her power but something her brother gave her.
    Last edited by DB_Hunter; Fri, 10-05-2007 at 09:05 PM.

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    I doubt the pins are actually the source of her power. Its probably just the way she manifests her power. Like a Zanpaktou, only instead of creating a sword from nothing, she just imbued that power into something she already had that was important to her.

    I wonder if Inoue is so powerful that she actually has the equivalent of 6 Zanpaktous...

  12. #32
    No it's more like every pin is 1/6 of a Zanpaktoo, an energy based, support/defensive type zanpaktoo.

    It remembers me in some ways FMP's Lambda driver. Inoue's ability don't obey any rules but the will of the user.
    It creates walls out of nothing
    It heals
    It punch holes into enemies

  13. #33
    Quote Originally Posted by DarthEnder
    If Orihime's only power is reversing time on things, how does her attack fairy work?

    Is it like, "I reverse time to a point before you existed, but only in a tiny little spot"?

    I think when Aizen was describing her power he was only talking about the one healing ability. Not the other two.
    You could say she's rejecting the molecular bonds on the adversary body, therefore causing a "slash-like" split on the path the "energy bullet" travels. No Molecular bonds = no structure integrity.

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    I COULD say that. But I don't wanna be called a homo.

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    A while back in the bleach manga I posted my own theory as to why Hollows were spanish. Most people didn't really like it (not that was being serious) but since the topic seems to come up again and again here it is.

    Basically Hueco Mundo is like giant desert right? I like to think of it as Mexico. Basically Aizen went over there whip the sad sack of hollows into shape. How does he do this? Of course by forcing hollows to give up their distinctive cultural tradition of their masks by tearing them off so thus they can attain powers similar to that of the dominate white bread shinigami's.

    So you can kind of see Aizen's rebellion as an extension of the lower underprivileged classes rising up to overrule the corrupt capitalists of soul society and eventually the spirit king dude.

    This is supported by the fact that all of the arrancar names have been in spanish, all of their attacks are in spanish, and all of their weapon releases are in spanish as well. Hell even chad the sole human hispanic admits that his powers are more along the lines of hollow (which explains why he sucks so much) so of course maybe he's become more powerful if he bleached his skin white or something.

    Is this theory accurate, no. Is it racist, heck ya but maybe you guys will find it amusing. Since god knows why Kubo decided to make such distinctive choices. Hell no one can tell me why the series is even called Bleach in the first place.

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    Your comparison would be funny if you didn't forget that they're Japanese, and not white. If you wanna compare Races, mexicans would be closer to the Caucasoid race than the Japanese are.

    http://forums.animesuki.com/archive/...p/t-27211.html

    I typed one phrase into google, and found that site.

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    Quote Originally Posted by LobsterMagnet
    A while back in the bleach manga I posted my own theory as to why Hollows were spanish. Most people didn't really like it (not that was being serious) but since the topic seems to come up again and again here it is.

    Basically Hueco Mundo is like giant desert right? I like to think of it as Mexico. Basically Aizen went over there whip the sad sack of hollows into shape. How does he do this? Of course by forcing hollows to give up their distinctive cultural tradition of their masks by tearing them off so thus they can attain powers similar to that of the dominate white bread shinigami's.

    So you can kind of see Aizen's rebellion as an extension of the lower underprivileged classes rising up to overrule the corrupt capitalists of soul society and eventually the spirit king dude.

    This is supported by the fact that all of the arrancar names have been in spanish, all of their attacks are in spanish, and all of their weapon releases are in spanish as well. Hell even chad the sole human hispanic admits that his powers are more along the lines of hollow (which explains why he sucks so much) so of course maybe he's become more powerful if he bleached his skin white or something.

    Is this theory accurate, no. Is it racist, heck ya but maybe you guys will find it amusing. Since god knows why Kubo decided to make such distinctive choices. Hell no one can tell me why the series is even called Bleach in the first place.
    Bleach turns things white. According to your own theory, the hollows (mexicans) are being raped of their "culture" and being forced to assimilate to Aizen's (whiteman) standards.

    This theory was so interesting I had to make an account just to comment on it. I'd been lurking the gotwoot forums for probably 4 or more years until now.

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    I thought that theory was more Socialist in its theme than racist.

    Interesting though.

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    I don't think such a theory has much grounds. I can't help from thinking the whole thing from the George Lucas perspective: It's there to give easy consistency and familiarity. Of course it also grants easy distinction by creating a clear difference between the Hollow world, the real world, and the SS. It gives easy consistency because all Kubo has to do is to simply label all Hollow related with Spanish names.

    It's a pretty simple nobrainer as Kubo doesn't need to think of cool Japanese names that would remain consistent with other Hollow related stuff. Now everything Spanish will be associated with Hollows in the viewers' minds. And Spanish being also such a prominent language, it might have a slightly familiar ring even in the Japanese ears, creating extra believability and exotic coolness.

    Personally I don't think there's anything more complicated behind it. I could be wrong, of course, though.

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    for the people that doesnt speak spanish, we got two new names in spanish this time.
    from the translation of db
    urahara: this is the hole that the arrancar use to travel is referred to as garganta
    'garganta': throat

    and this one is easier...
    aizen: welcome to our castle , Las Noches
    'las noches': the nights

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