strange....I didn't even consider the fact that oro had suggested killing them only to later end up joining an organization led by them.
If Jiraiya was able to recognize Konan so easily, I'm sure Oro did as well.
strange....I didn't even consider the fact that oro had suggested killing them only to later end up joining an organization led by them.
If Jiraiya was able to recognize Konan so easily, I'm sure Oro did as well.
10/4/04 - 8/20/07
Well... Jiraiya trained and spent time with them.... Oro didn't.Originally Posted by AssertnFailure
We don't know how long Oro was in Akatsuki. Pain probably never showed himself until later after Oro left. Or maybe there's more to the story. Maybe Pain kicked him out? Or maybe Oro recognized him and decided to leave himself.
Assuming he ever met Pein and Konan as Akatsuki members. It seems Akatsuki met infrequently, and only through their astral projections.
Yahiko must have died and Pain(Nagato) is using his body. The cover of the chapter looks like he's in Deidara's body at the moment.
I think Pain has bodies of his buddies who died, and then Pain goes and kills the people who killed his friends/members for vengeance... He's following Yahiko's dreams of making everyone feel the same pain.
So it's sort of like some spiritual thing where Pain being inside someone else's body is like "BITCH THIS IS WHAT so and so WENT THROUGH! NOW FEEL THE SAME!"
This is his so called judgement.
That does make sense, and i could see that happening..maybe it was the whole reason he formed the akatsuki.. to make other feels the pain that he and his friends and family went through...
So, the logic is you make others feel the pain, and some new kid has his parents killed and thinks "wait till I grow up and maim/torture/kill Pein's ass"?
Yahiko hated the rain and saw it as symptom of the Rain Village's weakness. You would think his intention is to end the rain. But we see Pain and he doesnt end the rain, but he manipulates and has complete control over it. He lets the rain perpetuate but on his and only his whim. He uses it to take on his God persona and control the minds and loyalty of the part of the Rain that is loyal to him.
I've noticed in this manga, the villain's goals are perversions of an originally good intentioned one and this seems to be the same case. The difference being usually a villain was once good, something happens, the villain takes on a slanted view of his situation and the world (the actual event of becoming a villain), then goes on acting out this messed up view without looking back.
I feel like this is the same thing with the added factor that the originally good person is Yahiko and the one who perverted Yahiko's goal and has a slanted view on the world is Nagato.
On a related note, I think the reason why Konnan doesnt affirm to Jiraiya both of them (or at least one) are dead on page 7 is because they are both alive in Pein's body.
Doubt it, as Pain is the only who probably thinks this way, which is why he is the villain.
You don't see Naruto or Sasuke wanting to cast judgement on the rest of the world.
You don't think the members know even each other's names? Kisame knew about the "zombie pair" Kakazu and Hidan, and Deidara knew all about Orochimaru, even though oro left the organization before he even joined. I don't think all those members would follow the orders of a leader whom they haven't even seen. Not to say that they know everything about Pein....I'm sure none of them knew he can switch bodies or anything... But Konan doesn't even try to hide her name nor identity...
as for Juugo / Yahiko....
How old is Juugo anyway? He might be a little too young to be Yahiko.
Also...there's no reason for him to have changed his name.
10/4/04 - 8/20/07
Quite right. On the other hand, nobody seemed to know that the goofball Tobi was really an Uchiha, and is apparently leading the Akatsuki.
I definitely agree that Juugo and Yahiko look amazingly similar, but I don't see any connection between the two. Juugo is definitely young now, and Jiraiya must have been 30 years younger when he first met Yahiko. Oh well.
Why are these chapters being released so late these days? Does anybody know?
Might be some sort of clone, I mean is it that far off base? Yamato is a clone of the 1st. Could be that Oro saw the potential in him and then cloned him.
assertnfailure (7:40:03 PM): dude....your posts are a bunch of nonsense
If Oro cloned him, we would be able to see at least hints of connection between Yamato and Oro because Oro wouldnt clone him if it wasn't for his benefit (making a strong supporter for himself) And I dont know if you can clone a dead body because 1st hokage was dead by the time Oro grew up
A clone should still retain the abilities and bloodline power of the original, because it is pointless to clone a specific person then. And I really can't see any cursed seal genetics within the boy, implying that it is unlikely for them to be clones
people always try to make connections with some random person in this forum...i mean the appeareance is similiar but even so...
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