One Piece 325

[Kraco]

Indeed, if thought in simple one-to-one terms then Enel or Ace or nobody might stand a chance against Blackbeard. However, so far all the villain bosses have had different amounts of goons, some of the powerful indeed, surrounding them. And among that variety there could be those who could deal with Blackbeard. The main logia guy would just need to evade Blackbeard and seeing how Blackbeard is trapped in a cumbersome and slow human form all the time, he can't easily catch formless and fast opponents. I'd assume Ace could have escaped easily enough if he hadn't tried to defeat Blackbeard.

[Assertn]

I can imagine blackbeard being surrounded by men only to cover the earth they stand on in darkness and suck them into a black hole the same way he did to the town.....

Besides, his teammates alone could probably take on most other opponents.

I'm sure Ace couldve escaped if he wanted to. Of course, Ace was the one who's been tracking down Blackbeard, not the other way around.

[animus]

Indeed, if thought in simple one-to-one terms then Enel or Ace or nobody might stand a chance against Blackbeard. However, so far all the villain bosses have had different amounts of goons, some of the powerful indeed, surrounding them. And among that variety there could be those who could deal with Blackbeard. The main logia guy would just need to evade Blackbeard and seeing how Blackbeard is trapped in a cumbersome and slow human form all the time, he can't easily catch formless and fast opponents. I'd assume Ace could have escaped easily enough if he hadn't tried to defeat Blackbeard.

Well, he doesn't really need to catch them. He has his Dark Vortex attack which sucked Ace into his grip 2+ times at an extremely high speed. Though I don't think Logia users can become truly formless, but can allow parts of their body to be passed through like Ace and Enel. Though, Enel does have the ability to zip himself around in a temporary bolt form I believe.

Anyways, how many Logia-type's have we seen so far? There's Blackbeard, Enel, Ace, Smoker, Crocodile, and Dragon?

[Kraco]

Wasn't Ace in his solid form when Blackbeard sucked him within reach? I don't remember the episode so well anymore. If Ace had turned himself into fire and flown away, it might be Blackbeard would have been left sucking only air. Besides, if Blackbeard needs to eject eventually the stuff he sucked in, a logia type would be ejected unharmed, because they have no solid body to compress or mutilate in the whatever dimension the stuff gets sucked into.