Who's to say that Pein didn't change his name? Most stupid villains do that anyway.
Who's to say that Pein didn't change his name? Most stupid villains do that anyway.
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I'm still downloading the chapter, but I'd like to point out that you don't need to be one's student to refer to him/her as 'sensei'. It refers mainly to respect to the other party's reputation, occupation, or seniority.
Doctors, teachers, and perhaps some other occupations are always refered to as 'sensei' in Japan.
"Our hearts are full of memories but not all of them reflect the truth. The heart isn't a recording device. Even important memories change with time. They warp or fade, leaving us with but a shadow of what we hoped to remember." 天の道を行き、全てを司る。これは僕の世界。
QFT...I'm almost 100% certain Naruto has addressed other jounins like Asuma and Gai with the sensei honorific. If Konan was indeed Jiraiya's student then it's not too far-fetched to assume Pein would also refer to Jiraiya as sensei even if he wasn't Jiraiya' student.Originally Posted by Psyke
EDIT: Although, Pein did say he "hold[s] no more love for him"
Psyche has kind of proven himself the Japanese pro around here, and (once again) he's absolutely right. Those name suffixes aren't nearly as selective as you might think. Rather, they are quite flexible.Originally Posted by Psyke
Because that's not his body or head band. He stole a rain-nin's body, infiltrated the rain, and became their military leader. Unless Jiraiya was a doctor at some point, Pein was clearly his student.Originally Posted by AssertnFailure
Regardless, when Konan asks what to do, Pein replies "Kill him, obviously. I no longer hold love for him." Jiraiya is clearly not gay. He had no kids. So either Pein is his brother or an old student. When taken together with the honorific, a pretty good case for him being a student is made.Originally Posted by KCMmmmm
Also, Jiraiya's toad silhouette was fucking cool.
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Although I agree that Sasuke wasted chakra using chidori on an obvious Naruto bunshin, it was crazy that he just disregarded Naruto in a split second. It makes you enjoy Sasuke's badass-ness more but I feel sorry for Naruto. I would feel like shit if a "best friend" whom I haven't seen for year(s)? would pierce me with chidori at the first sight of me.
And..ahh...Jiraiya's technique seems to use some kind of shadow manipulation...it was very unique jutsu =)
Pein seems to be able to access different bodys, he looks like a good potential villian and an amazing shinobi. Student isn't the only option for the relationship between Jiraiya + Konan, maybe he helped them out years ago through some heart breaking incident. But I also agree with most of the posts here that think the they are his students
Maybe Pein was a huge fan of Jiraiya's ero books and was a disciple of ero-manga/book writing at one point, where he surpassed Jiraiya and thus holds no more love for him.
Forget the Pain storyline, I liked Naruto seeing Sasuke and Sasuke ending him! That was sweet, Would have been cooler had it been the real Naruto though! I wonder what Sasuke would have done then!
assertnfailure (7:40:03 PM): dude....your posts are a bunch of nonsense
Maybe those earings are the true 'mind' of Payne? he carries his own sould around and switchs in between bodies, like Sasori, in a way.
Maybe pein is jiraiya's son?
This chapter makes me wish I had the patience to wait a couple months before reading naruto... when i first read naruto there were 200+ chapters so I would just read one after the other. It seems that there is at least one new element added to the already insane plot every chapter.
I didnt expect for naruto to find sasuke and then tobi is still out watching everybody. tsunade showing up to help jiraiya i think could happen since i dont think any of the other leaf ninja are very close to where jiraiya is.
I think it's actually some kind of paper jutsu. It looks like he's flat as a sheet of paper and peeling off of the clone's shadow like a sticker. http://www.onemanga.com/Naruto/371/16/Originally Posted by February
Obviously, this is just a hypothesis, but I think the idea behind the jutsu is to 1) make a bunshin or kage bunshin, 2) turn into a sheet of paper, 3) hide in the clone's shadow (with appropriate camouflage)
If true, this supports the idea that Konan, and probably Pein, were his students.
My guess, much like half the other people's is Konan is part of the 4th's team and Pain probably is too (explains why they're partners, they became ninjas as partners). As for the reason of Pain's headband, maybe the body we originally seen him in isn't his real body but that of a rain ninja. Whatever way this is just getting more and more intense. It all akes sense too that these ninjas would mostly be from Konoha considering it looks like the mastermind behind it all is (Madara).
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Awesome plot development.
You know what... if they are pulling out a legendary Sharingan user, I'm saying the way the plot is twisting and turning here we may even get a legendary Byakugan user thrown in to the fray. Otherwise the series would just be too heavily biased in favour of the l337 bloodline.
Yeah, maybe the Pain we have seen so far isn't his real self. Perhaps that's the body of the guy he defeated..... You know, the guy that gave the Sannins their name. Forgot that guy's name. He was from the rain village right?Originally Posted by joker-kun
Yeah, maybe the Pain we have seen so far isn't his real self. Perhaps that's the body of the guy he defeated..... You know, the guy that gave the Sannins their name. Forgot that guy's name. He was from the rain village right?Originally Posted by joker-kun
What if the rain that Pain uses to detect intruders were a skill or bloodline of Hanzou?
What if Pain really does transfer himself from body to body and allows him the use of other people's techniques? Something similar to what Oro tried to do, but failed.
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Originally Posted by Id3aLiStiC
his name was Hanzou
I'm betting that Sasuke and Naruto will both meet up with Itachi now, with some of Naruto's team taking on the rest of Hebi.
i kinda wished for a plain sasuke vs itachi confrontation. its gonna be chaotic with so many people...
EDIT: Damn you Naruto!!!
I still want to know what itachi was going to tell Naruto before he went and seen Sasuke in the cave. He never ended up telling him did he?
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