well, you know. the lack of tail in the movie doesn't exactly help.Originally Posted by Junior
well, you know. the lack of tail in the movie doesn't exactly help.
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Wait. What.
He has no tail in the movie? Is this even Dragonball then?
WTF? This movie is set in a high school and is pretty much a bastardized version of The Karate Kid and you guys are nitpicking about a tail?
BTW: It just occured to me that you guys haven't seen the movie yet. Download a cam. It sadly makes no difference in quality.
"Leaving hell is not the same as entering it." - Tierce Japhrimel
i am determined to have my first viewing of this in theaters when it comes to a theater near me. yeah, i'll be wasting like $8 out of my pocket, but it'll be worth it. almost everyone i know irl who's interested already got a download and tried watching it. however, i refuse to do that yet...
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This movie was such utter dogshit that I refuse to believe it was made any way other than with tongue planted firmly in cheek.
Some things are just not meant to be made into live-action movies.
I think I know precisely what I mean
when I say it's a schpadoinkle day
dude, i was so hyped about seeing this in theaters, but it's supposed to open today and none of the theaters anywhere close to me are getting it. what?! this stinks..
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If they did pick it up it would last 1 week and then go straight to the dollar cinema. You should check those in a couple days and you can at least see it on a sort-of-big screen.
“For God will not permit that we shall know what is to come... those who by some sorcery or by some dream might come to pierce the veil that lies so darkly over all that is before them may serve by just that vision to cause that God should wrench the world from its heading and set it upon another course altogether and then where stands the sorcerer? Where the dreamer and his dream?”
It`s a common knowledge he is Asian-Alien? Are you serious?
*sigh*
A) You can`t be an Asian-Alien, an alien is something from OUTTER space, as in not from earth. Asia is a continent ON earth, as in from earth. So no, he can`t be an Asian-Alien
B) There is not Asia on Dragonball`s word, thus, he can`t be asian...
C) What are the common Asian traits he has? black hair? (wich is common in a lot of places besides asia... he may as well be Latin) and... what else? you`ll have to excuse me if i`m wrong, but i dont remember asians being completely white, tall or having a tail for that matter.
You cannot hope to build a better world without improving the individuals. To that end each of us must work for his own improvement, and at the same time share a general responsibility for all humanity, our particular duty being to aid those to whom we think we can be most useful. -Marie Curie
Look, we've been through this already. Get away kitty.
A) It's arguable that life on any planet in the universe will progress/evolve the same as it did on Earth, meaning Mongoloid peoples (one of the 3 primary races of humanity, versus Negroid and Caucasoid) would more than likely exist on these other planets, including on planet Vegeta. So while it is possible to argue Nappa is Caucasian, Goku and Vegeta are clearly Asian.
B) Clearly there is an Asia in the DBZ world, as our heroes land on Earth, and there is an Asian continent on Earth.
C) Common traits are black hair, black eyes, Asian-style haircuts, yellowish-white skin (versus brownish-white skin among Latinos), the numerous kanji characters used, clothing worn by Asian cultures, martial arts practiced in Asia, concepts/practices/beliefs popularized in Asian cultures, and the names of the characters.
“For God will not permit that we shall know what is to come... those who by some sorcery or by some dream might come to pierce the veil that lies so darkly over all that is before them may serve by just that vision to cause that God should wrench the world from its heading and set it upon another course altogether and then where stands the sorcerer? Where the dreamer and his dream?”
That's a ridiculous leap in logic and you know it.
DBZ takes place in its own universe. There is no Asia, there is no U.S.A. It's a different literary universe, No, you don't have proof to refute this. Yes, there is mountains of proof to confirm it. Japanese characters like Kanji are used because it was written for a Japanese audience.
Please drop the issue, guys. It's never been explicitly stated nor refuted that Goku is Asian. It's silly arguing about it. In any case, Goku being white in this movie doesn't make it any better or worse than it already is. Even if an Asian guy had been cast as Goku, it still would have been a horrible movie.
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<@Terra> he told me this, "man actually meeting terra is so fucking big", and he started crying. Then he bought me hot dogs
Anyways... im seeing it tomorrow because my friend got those free Danny Yogurt movie tickets and plus I just wanna see it with my own EYES.
No one but the enemy will ever teach you how to destroy and conquer. Only the enemy shows you where you are weak. Only the enemy tells you when he is strong. And the rules of the game are what you can do to him and what you can stop him from doing to you. I am your enemy from now on. From now on, I am your teacher."
-Mazer Rackham
A) Then he is Mongoloid, not asian. There is no Asia on planet vegeta.
B) There is no Asia in DBZ, play any DBZ game with a world map, there is ONE continent. Absolutely no human place is mentioned in the whole series, only ficticional places such as west city. Dinasour, flying cars, pterodactil humanoids and guys with 3 eyes is not common on planet earth nowdays either. If you think DBZ`s "Earth" is the same as ours allow me to lol. But i`ll play your game, here`s a map to Dragon Ball`s "Earth". Mind pointing me where Asia is?
C) Asian style haircuts? lmao, no asian has goku`s hair, goku is not yelow-ish white, he is white period. There is no one whiter than goku in the whole series. Goku is still quite tall wich is certainly not a common trait among asians. Cloth, culture etc, is a non surprising coincidence, the author being asian is normal he bases his story with asian writing etc. I`m not buying the kanji part either, krilin has his romanized name in a cap, is he american?. Goku`s real name is Kakarotu (sp?) wich guess what? is an american word (Carrot). At this point you`re trying to force Goku to be asian, as if being any other "race" will make him a worst character.
I can`t beleive i have to do this but...
A⋅sian Show Spelled Pronunciation [ey-zhuhn, ey-shuhn]
–noun 2. a native of Asia.
Source: www.dictionary.com
Is he an Asian native? no? he`s not Asian.
EDIT:Sorry, i didn`t saw your post by the time i made mine, you`re right, is completely pointless talking about this. But... well... talking about the movie is not very inspiring at this point.
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You cannot hope to build a better world without improving the individuals. To that end each of us must work for his own improvement, and at the same time share a general responsibility for all humanity, our particular duty being to aid those to whom we think we can be most useful. -Marie Curie
I think I'm alone in saying this but I liked the movie somewhat, although I agree with Psyke's review I also disagree with it.
As just a movie I think it was fine, but as a DB adaptation I dunno what to think of it, mainly because aside from the parts that were really bad, like Oozaru, there were parts that I enjoyed.
I also think Chatwin did a great job portraying the goku character, in the context of his new surroundings ( school and such).
And yeah I mean c'mon Asian goku? Why aren't you then complaining about the lack of talking animals and dinosaurs.... please.
Here's a great review of the movie that Yuki showed me. I enjoyed reading the review more than watching the movie!
"Leaving hell is not the same as entering it." - Tierce Japhrimel
If we go with the story of the Monkey king, which it's based on, then yes, Goku is Chinese/asian.
That and his Kamehameha is named after a Hawaiian King. Roshi lives on an Island.Hawaii is an Island.
If we go with Hollywood, then Goku is not Goku but some weird US version of Dragon Ball. Case closed. Now stop arguing.
Most I've talked to who seen it (Which is like 3) say it's worse than the first Street Fighter movie. :/ I'll take their word on it.
The alien asian argument is pretty silly to me. Goku wasn't planned to be an alien till DBZ. And anyway, even after he was revealed to be a Saiyan, he is still an asian looking alien.
Any the kamehameha isn't named after anyone. It's just a coincidence. Kame in Japanese means Turtle.
"Our hearts are full of memories but not all of them reflect the truth. The heart isn't a recording device. Even important memories change with time. They warp or fade, leaving us with but a shadow of what we hoped to remember." 天の道を行き、全てを司る。これは僕の世界。
When goku is in SS mode his hair is blonde and his eyes are green so how is that consider asian looking?
I also have to impliment that Goku is atleast 6'3 and have spikey wild hair and thiere are several different race in DBZ universe so why saiyan's only get categorize as asian descent? hence the fact that its a japanese animaition
"The End Justify The Means"
Goku only became an alien in DBZ. Back in the origin of the series, the manga was supposed to be based on The Monkey God or the Journey of The West series. But I don't really want to start a "What race/ethnic group is the Monkey God" issue.
"Our hearts are full of memories but not all of them reflect the truth. The heart isn't a recording device. Even important memories change with time. They warp or fade, leaving us with but a shadow of what we hoped to remember." 天の道を行き、全てを司る。これは僕の世界。
The original intent of the creator is completely 100% irrelevant.Goku only became an alien in DBZ. Back in the origin of the series, the manga was supposed to be based on The Monkey God or the Journey of The West series. But I don't really want to start a "What race/ethnic group is the Monkey God" issue.
Oozaru is in the movie!?
You cannot hope to build a better world without improving the individuals. To that end each of us must work for his own improvement, and at the same time share a general responsibility for all humanity, our particular duty being to aid those to whom we think we can be most useful. -Marie Curie
Fully agreed. My single point is that Goku looks asian.
"Our hearts are full of memories but not all of them reflect the truth. The heart isn't a recording device. Even important memories change with time. They warp or fade, leaving us with but a shadow of what we hoped to remember." 天の道を行き、全てを司る。これは僕の世界。
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