I completely disagree and find it disrespectful and shameful to dismiss the creator's vision of his characters. The movie suffered because of this lack of respect for the creator's vision.Originally Posted by UChessmaster
This is almost as funny as Sheva on RE5 being considered black. She either uses a lot of hair relaxer or has the least afro-centric hair I've ever seen on a black woman.
So is Superman caucasian or not? He was born on another planet.
“For God will not permit that we shall know what is to come... those who by some sorcery or by some dream might come to pierce the veil that lies so darkly over all that is before them may serve by just that vision to cause that God should wrench the world from its heading and set it upon another course altogether and then where stands the sorcerer? Where the dreamer and his dream?”
I had no problen with this statement, and then i went and saw the movie.
The movie being complete garbage aside, my problem with it wasn't because Goku was white.
What annoy me most was the fact that almost the entire cast for the movie consist of Asian actors, and it was pretty freaking obvious that the producers behind the movie was trying to make the "Asian" origin of the show to be the selling point of the movie. With the exception of Goku and Piccolo (who is a freaking green alien anyways) The only non-Asian actors are either minor or dead.
It's the same BS "Lets make the main character white so all of the Asian obsessed white boys will have something they can relate to" that Hollywood pulled with Forbidden Kingdom
So as everyone feared, that movie isn't even worth the electricity needed to download it...
All the things I really like to do are either illegal, immoral, or fattening. And then: Golf.
The producer and director are Asian aren't they? And two of the major characters are white, one is green, and the minor characters are Asian.
It's a martial arts/wire-fu movie, of course they are going to play up the Asian angle.
And isn't "white boys" a racial slur?
“For God will not permit that we shall know what is to come... those who by some sorcery or by some dream might come to pierce the veil that lies so darkly over all that is before them may serve by just that vision to cause that God should wrench the world from its heading and set it upon another course altogether and then where stands the sorcerer? Where the dreamer and his dream?”
I'm not sure, is it?
Is it really necessary for me to be completely politically correct in order to not be a racist in a thread about Dragonball?
I am well aware of the fact that both the director and producer were Asian and i apologize for not clarifying in my original post.
I suppose it was natural for them to play the asian angle especially for this movie, but i still thinks that the main reason they cast Justin Chatwin as Goku was to appeal to the masses. At least, it's the only reason that i've manage to come up with, so maybe you can give me some insights on as to why they have made such a decision if you don't think so.
(on a side note...wasn't Goku's real name Kakkarot? I know it wasn't Carrot.)
You're probably right on this. =/ (reminds me of Chun Li. I'm guessing they cast Kristin because she's popular due to Smallville)I suppose it was natural for them to play the asian angle especially for this movie, but i still thinks that the main reason they cast Justin Chatwin as Goku was to appeal to the masses.
It might be one of those LET'S CAST A GOODLOOKING GUY SO WE WIN things. Where they think fangirls/boys will come for the eye candy,
.......Chun-li is half chinese..........Kreuk is half chinese.....jeez get the fuck over it.
Chun Li is half chinese?
"Our hearts are full of memories but not all of them reflect the truth. The heart isn't a recording device. Even important memories change with time. They warp or fade, leaving us with but a shadow of what we hoped to remember." 天の道を行き、全てを司る。これは僕の世界。
First time I've heard that.
There is a diference betwen his original idea and the ending product of the SERIES, you`re relating two completely diferent thing. As for superman, he is kryptonian, but by your logic, he is clearly an american.
Kakarotto (カカロット ,Kakarotto?, addressed as Kakarot in the English anime and spelled Kakarrot in the English manga)
It`s the romanization of the word "Carrot", it`s how japanese say it, same goes for Vegeta by the way.
Last edited by UChessmaster; Sat, 04-11-2009 at 01:18 PM.
You cannot hope to build a better world without improving the individuals. To that end each of us must work for his own improvement, and at the same time share a general responsibility for all humanity, our particular duty being to aid those to whom we think we can be most useful. -Marie Curie
They didn't randomly come up with giving chun-li a caucasian mother in the movie. That was revealed years ago, during the development of Capcom Fighting All-Stars. But I guess it didn't stick around cause that game got canceled.
Oh and ani, saying its funny to consider Sheva a black person just because of her hair is even more racist then all the racist shit Capcom was accused of.
No, I never assigned a country or nationality to Goku, just a race. By your reasoning, Superman is not caucasian, when he is clearly a white man.
I think you're wrong here too. I'm fairly certain the Japanese have their own word for carrot, and didn't need to adopt the word from another language.Kakarotto (カカロット ,Kakarotto?, addressed as Kakarot in the English anime and spelled Kakarrot in the English manga)
It`s the romanization of the word "Carrot", it`s how japanese say it, same goes for Vegeta by the way.
Yes, but in neither case was racism implied or intended. It's all cultural differentiation, and no more discriminatory than saying the sky is blue or that clouds are white. I'd like to meet the black woman with hair that sways in the breeze like Sheva's.
“For God will not permit that we shall know what is to come... those who by some sorcery or by some dream might come to pierce the veil that lies so darkly over all that is before them may serve by just that vision to cause that God should wrench the world from its heading and set it upon another course altogether and then where stands the sorcerer? Where the dreamer and his dream?”
Note: Chun Li Is definitely FULL Chinese. Just LOOK at her.
Ani, you should know if he's right or wrong about Carrot. I mean, you know tons regarding Japan. =/ And somehow, I doubt it's really carrot but whatever.
Carrot is ninjin in Japanese, I'm pretty sure. Thus making romaji for Carrot to Kakarotto would probably be wrong. Regardless, I'm sure they're not dumb enough to add an extra syllable to the pronunciation.
"Asian" is not a race. For the record, we`re all the same race, humans. I honestly don`t know what you mean by Asian anymore. There is no Asia in the Dragon ball world and he`s missing charactheristics that will make him Asian (Height, skin color, sorry, goku is 100% white, not yellow-white, ALL he has is the hair color and eyes, wich ironically change to gold/green when he transforms)
I completely messed up this one, what i meant to say is that his name is how japanese pronounce/type the word Carrot. Essentially his name IS carrot. Same thing applies to Vegeta sort of, his name coming from the word "Vegetable"
You cannot hope to build a better world without improving the individuals. To that end each of us must work for his own improvement, and at the same time share a general responsibility for all humanity, our particular duty being to aid those to whom we think we can be most useful. -Marie Curie
Humans are a species (Homo sapien). And no we are not all the same race.
Your stereotyping to indicate that he's white is ridiculously bad.
I could see the point I guess with Piccolo after Pickle (he is green and shit), Gohan (which means rice in Japanese), seems to follow the trend that a lot of the names are related to food.
Wait...you're telling me that it wasn't wrong to think of "drinking tea" when I heard Yamcha?
If it's not Isuzu-chan Mii~
I totally forgot about that, since it's in Chinese and Yamcha's a pretty lame character, haha.
I`m not stereo... what? so when in the movie ppl say THE human race they`re stereotyping?
You can use the word race to talk about a species.
You cannot hope to build a better world without improving the individuals. To that end each of us must work for his own improvement, and at the same time share a general responsibility for all humanity, our particular duty being to aid those to whom we think we can be most useful. -Marie Curie
It's obviously way over your head. You say because asians are short and yellow, Goku HAS to be white since you know every asian is short and apparently has yellow-white skin (wtf is yellow white?).
No, you can't. You might think so since a common phrase in which people use is Human Race, which is false. Besides, if it wasn't clearly obvious that the script in the movie is a steaming pile of dog shit, I don't know what is.
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