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    Er....Orochimaru runs the entire Sound village.

    He has like, dozens of ninja under his command, we saw them during the Konoha Crush.

    There's plenty of places you could inject a spy.

    Quote Originally Posted by Harima Kenji
    Rewatching this ep made it very clear to me what is going to happen to Gaara...
    If Chiyo's technique can make puppets alive, then Gaara would be no problem. Since she has about 3 days before she dies, she'll resurrect Gaara with the technique.
    maybe everyone figured this out already..but maybe I forgot about a small detail and someone can prove me wrong.
    Oh yeah, now that you point it out, yeah, thats probably whats going to happen. Now it makes sense why they even had the "heres a technique that will kill me but it didn't kill me this time" as simply a way on introducing it now for when she uses it later.

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    What will Gaara be like without the demon inside him? Can he even use sand anymore? Since his major techniques relied on sand, he might be quite a mediocre ninja without it.

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    Yeah it'll be interesting to see how they portray him without the One Tail inside him should they bring him back, which now that it's been pointed out seems very likely. Logic says that he should be near useless. After all as far as we know he's had little if any traditional ninja training. Maybe some chakra control training but that seems to be about it. There is no way they would have put him in a traditional class with the other ninja and i can't imagine any one would have survived training him anyway. Training usually involves being disciplined, and disciplining Gaara would have likely resulted in death. It seems like they probably said "Here's a monster, here's how you control chakra, now try to kill things that aren't us as often as possible." Who knows though, maybe he did some training over the last 3 years as well.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DarthEnder
    Well, I don't actually know. All I know is they've said like 3 times in the series now that to get Mangekyou Sharingan you have to kill your best friend. So until they say otherwise I'm going to just take their word for it.
    I...hmm, now that you mention it, it does look a bit funny. Anyone want to post pictures of both?
    We only heard it from one source, Itachi, who's pretty much disturbingly insane... how reliable can any information he gives be?

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    Gaara should stay dead. I'm getting real sick of them using some crazy Medical Deus ex Machina no Jutsu to keep any protagonist under the age of 60 alive after what is surely a fatal fight...

    I don't care if he's Bijuu Butt Buddies with Naruto, bringing him back would just deflate what little drama this arc has had so far outside of three or so decently animated fight sequences.

    Besides, Chiyo already used a bit of her life to save Sakura. Sakura wasn't fully dead, but Chiyo giving her her life energy to prevent her from dying shouldn't leave her with enough energy to bring Gaara fully back. He'd be like a zombie or need to sleep twelve hours a day with not a full energy tank... I can't imagine that Chiyo's wrinkly old body has enough life in it for two young people... If she does bring Gaara back, I'd like to see him just drop dead a year or two later, and people be like, "Yeah, he had half of a 90+ year old woman as his life energy, what did you expect?"

    but then again... it does sound perfectly akin to some of the lame stuff they tend to throw into shounen series...

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    Gaara should not be able to control sand without shukaku, otherwise other sand ninja would be doing it. Also, it was stated (although subtly), earlier in the Sasori fight that the 3rd Kazekage's iron sand attacks were imitated off of a previous shukaku jinchuurriki, which suggests that sand control has always been a unique ability passed between that line of jinchuurriki.

    At the very least, he definitely should not have the automatic self-defense.
    10/4/04 - 8/20/07

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    Well it's not like he controled sand, he controled the sand that was mixed with the jinchuuriki... it was pretty much a part of him. That's not to say that they won't have jutsus that use sand, but it's like he'd be able to control sand like we've seen him. We'll probably see him control sand much like someone from the rain village controls water and how the Uchija has their Katon jutsus. Not a given, but there's surely a way.

    But as Assertn said, he wont have the automatic self-defense. That sand had a mind of its own because of the demon. The real question is, how strong or weak will he be, and if he'd still be considered Kazekage with the current strength he'd have.

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    I doubt he would want to continue as Kazekage. He wouldn't really be able to protect the village that effectively anymore. It's not like he was the ruler because of his experience or any exceptional wits in the first place, I think. Kazekage is probably supposed to be a ninja of formidable proficiency, and Gaara wouldn't be that anymore without the beast inside him. So, even if the others wanted him to continue, I'm not sure he would agree himself.

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    Quote Originally Posted by AssertnFailure
    Gaara should not be able to control sand without shukaku, otherwise other sand ninja would be doing it.
    That doesn't quite make sense. I mean, Konoha is the Leaf village and how many ninjas have we seen using leaf-related techniques.


    I suspect that Gaara is going to suck for a long time. Then there will be a time skip, and after that skip Gaara will be a badass again. Maybe a badass with different powers. Maybe not. I mean, who's to say Gaara didn't learn something from Shukaku while being bonded with him his whole life. I mean, just because he never had to control sand himself doesn't mean that he didn't learn how. He'd just have to do it with alot less chakra now.

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    By saying that you are implying that there is someone now who will be more proficient than him in the Sand. No candidates some to mind.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DarthEnder
    That doesn't quite make sense. I mean, Konoha is the Leaf village and how many ninjas have we seen using leaf-related techniques.
    Hardly any...actually...
    Even as far as jutsus that involve trees, wood, plants, etc...only the 1st hokage has ever known such techniques.

    Unless you count lee's spinning kick as a leaf-related technique.


    People from Gaara's village would run in fear of Gaara's sand, as it stretches out to consume them. I haven't seen a single offensive or defensive sand jutsu that wasn't performed by Gaara.
    10/4/04 - 8/20/07

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    but in all fairness the one thing the sand village always had against garaa is the fact he had shukaku inside of him, without that, yes he prob would be a lot less effective in the form of protection of the sand village, but the village itself wouldnt feel afraid of him anymore
    and after they all witnessed how garaa put his life down to save them maybe they will have a new found respect for garaa.
    still if garaa fails maybe kankuro can take over? lol he seems to be the only other half decent one from the sand village

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    Quote Originally Posted by AssertnFailure
    Hardly any...actually...
    Even as far as jutsus that involve trees, wood, plants, etc...only the 1st hokage has ever known such techniques.
    Wait, thats what I was trying to say.

    I think I was agreeing while actually sounding like I was dissagreeing.

    What I was saying was that, only a couple of people in Konoha have any "leaf" skills. The whole village doesn't practice them just because it's the leaf village. Similarly, they live in the Country of Fire and only like Sasuke and Kakashi ever use Fire attacks.

    While on the other hand, you have the Sand village in the Country of Wind. I was dissagreeing with the idea that if someone could do sand attacks without Shukaku that everyone in the village would use sand attacks. But that's not the case. I mean, we've only ever seen 3 Sand ninjas in battle, and the other two are specialists in other things, a puppet master and a wind attack master.

    I'm saying there are probably plenty of Sand ninjas that know sand attacks, we just haven't seen them because we've only seen a couple Sand ninjas ever.

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    Only ever seen one sand technique that's not Gaara's:

    Sasori's Sand clone to evade Kankuro's Black Secret Technique

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    I seem to recall Garaa's teacher using some technique to kill the coughing guy...but I can't remember what it was now.

    EDIT: Nevermind, that was a wind thing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DarthEnder
    I seem to recall Garaa's teacher using some technique to kill the coughing guy...but I can't remember what it was now.

    EDIT: Nevermind, that was a wind thing.
    I thought Gaara killed him...

    nvm, it was Baki :P


    Quote Originally Posted by DarthEnder
    Er....Orochimaru runs the entire Sound village.

    He has like, dozens of ninja under his command, we saw them during the Konoha Crush.

    There's plenty of places you could inject a spy.

    The only sound nins I saw where the sound four and Kimimaro. The name sound "village" is a bit deceiving because it's just 1 building...
    Last edited by ASSpirine; Wed, 09-12-2007 at 03:53 PM.
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    yep its tru.. guess people dnt rmember terras old comic strips...

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    Maybe they'll actually have Gaara do ninja things, like jumping, kicking, shuriken throwing and sword slicing hehe instead of standing there with his arms crossed all the time. That would be interesting to see. Of course, I'm pretty sure that they'll somehow have Gaara become a total badass still, he did say the former Kazekage taught him all the secrets of the shinobi at a young age.

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    Quote Originally Posted by deadlydreamx
    yep its tru.. guess people dnt rmember terras old comic strips...
    I thought of it too
    He even made a joke about the "village" part

    But seriously, when did they ever show more of the sound village then the mainsion of Oro...
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    Quote Originally Posted by ASSpirine
    The only sound nins I saw where the sound four and Kimimaro. The name sound "village" is a bit deceiving because it's just 1 building...
    When the Sand and Sound villages both attack Konoha, there were dozens of "generic" Sound ninjas with that gray camoflage and generic ninja hoods fighting various people around the village.

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