One Piece Manga Discussion: Scanlation/Translated Only

[Munsu]

You can't assume anyone is killed in the series without explicitly stating it.

Even Pell, that hawk guardian guy from Arabasta survived even though it was pretty heavily implied that he was dead several times over.

I think for the most part, characters from the past that are alluded to as being dead/killed it is safe to think they're dead for the most part, I think the inconsistency starts once we start following Luffy, and since then people are very hard to kill. And that's the usual for most shounen series... they paint this tragic past, but the present doesn't even compare as far as violence/death goes.

And as joker-kun said, I wonder what Ace being captured triggered... I for some reason don't think it has anything to do with Luffy, as I doubt they'd be getting information about it... they always seem clueless as to what's going on in the world.

[Assertn]

Doesn't Nami already know about Ace?

[Munsu]

Hmm, might not remember... but you may be right; did she learn it from Kuma?

[Assertn]

Hmm, might not remember... but you may be right; did she learn it from Kuma?

Kuma definitely said something about Ace to Nami....I don't know if he went into much detail though.

[poopdeville]

And as joker-kun said, I wonder what Ace being captured triggered... I for some reason don't think it has anything to do with Luffy

It definitely doesn't now, but I'm fairly sure it will. Blackbeard doesn't want to become a Shichibukai for nothing. He wants to become Pirate King. The way Oda set the situation up -- Shanks barely being a match to Blackbeard before he lost his arm, and before Blackbeard got his fruit; Whitebeard being sick; Ace (who is supposedly stronger than Luffy) losing -- all indicates that Blackbeard is a contender for the PK.

In short, none of the current super strong guys are a match for Blackbeard, which probably means Luffy will have to fight him to be PK.

On the other hand, Dragon is supposed to be a huge bad ass, and we know very little about him. And he's probably Ace's dad too.

[Carnage]

The way Oda set the situation up -- Shanks barely being a match to Blackbeard before he lost his arm, and before Blackbeard got his fruit;

Black Beard was stronger than Shanks? I don't remember that.....

[poopdeville]

Black Beard was stronger than Shanks? I don't remember that.....

Blackbeard gave Shanks his scars, and didn't get hurt at all. This is why Shanks went to see Whitebeard -- to warn him that Blackbeard was very dangerous and to not send Ace.

[Carnage]

Blackbeard gave Shanks his scars, and didn't get hurt at all. This is why Shanks went to see Whitebeard -- to warn him that Blackbeard was very dangerous and to not send Ace.

Do you know what chapter this was from? I really don't remember Shanks having been defeated by Blackbeard...

[poopdeville]

Do you know what chapter this was from? I really don't remember Shanks having been defeated by Blackbeard...

Chapter 434.

It's a very good chapter.

[Splash!]

Blackbeard just gave Shanks a scar. There is no reason to conclude that he was defeated by him.

In short, none of the current super strong guys are a match for Blackbeard, which probably means Luffy will have to fight him to be PK.

How do you come to that conclusion? Blackbeard has been runnning around, trying to prove himself as a person worthy enough of becoming a Shichibukai. I really doubt he is the strongest one, as of now. But I do agree that he is a strong contender of being the Pirate King in the future as he has the "Luffy attitude" and is also a D, which means quite alot in this manga.

Blackbeard is slowly making his way upto the top but he is not there yet.

[Assertn]

I don't really get what the motivation is for becoming a shikibukai though. It seems like a pretty distinct dead-end as far as a pirate's ambition goes.

[Belial]

I don't really get what the motivation is for becoming a shikibukai though. It seems like a pretty distinct dead-end as far as a pirate's ambition goes.

you can do anything you want and the WG is not on your ass, seems like a pretty sweet deal to me

becoming a Shikibukai is not the end of a pirate ambition, Moria wanted to become Pirate King, so does BB, Doflamingo has a plan for a new age...

as for Kuma talking abaut Ace, the only thing he asked was "Is Ace Luffy's brother" as far as i can remember

[Death13a]

One Piece 489 by Franky House

Biblicard from some 200 chapters back is back (piece of paper that Ace gave to Luffy).

And Brooke is only one joining. Oh well.

[Assertn]

Yep....interesting predicament at the end....

I hope Brooke isn't going to keep obsessing over panties now...
Just like how Sanjay turned from badass to an obsessive freak as soon as he joined the crew.