Quote Originally Posted by Death BOO Z
I can see where all this is coming from, Brook is an odd bird amongst them, but it'll change in an arc or two. the same way the during Skypiea arc Robin was distant from the team. Brook needs a bit more time to in the group.

I wonder if Luffy still has any 'fear' left from the WG, after the judgement island incident. before it, I had the feeling that Luffy is 'intimidated' by Aoikoji and the other admirals, the way the Robin is afraid of the buster call. but now?
I don't think Luffy even cares for them, he knows where he stands and how he fares.
he has a big ass crazy new top notch ship, his crew racks 600 billion in bounties, he himself is the ranked the 2nd most dangerous pirate on the island. how much does Luffy care for what the goverment throws at him?


edit: continuing what I wrote last week, about the strentgh of Jinbei.

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"Arlong is the mermaid pirate who is as strong as Jinbei, one of the seven gods"

that's what the text says. not me. as strong as. in my book, it means equal, or almost equal. I'd even give Jinbei the benefit of doubt that Arlong is the first officer, and therefore, has the same ratio if strentgh with him as Zoro has with Luffy.

next, if we judge strengh by bounties (which is how the goverment measures the pirates) we can assume the if Luffy got a bounty of 30 Mil by beating arlong, so arlong's 'power' was around the 30 mil himself.

Luffy's current bounty is 300, and Zoro's is 100. the other Pirates said that luffy is special for having a subordinate with such high bounty. the ratio between the captain and the first officer is 3:1.

now, we can agree that Arlong's 'bounty/power' was around 30, and even if he's not 'as strong as' Jinbei but only an exceptional first officer (notice: at this point, I'm already bending the cannon text) Jinbei's bounty will be 3 times his own (30*3=90).
play with the numbers any way you want (and remember that each time you're stratying further away from the manga source). the end result will be that Jinbei isn't something to get too worked up about.
even if we double Arlong's supposed bounty and quaddruple (X4) the ration between him and Jinbei, the bounty will still be less than luffys ([30*2]=60*4=240<300)
regardless of how much I rape the text (and how fun it is), it's just hyperbole to back my opinion that says that the SB aren't as influencial as they were before.

(before I continue, a few words: I know that Math doesn't proove anything, etc etc etc, that anything can happen in OP, blah blah blah, bounties aren't energy levels, yada yada yada)

the fact that they recruited Blackbeard and that Kuma came to save Moria is enough evidence for this, the Goverment is greatly weakend now.

last words concernning Jinbei: since nobody seems to think that he has a devil fruit ability, and some of you say that he is probably 'the strongest mermen of all merman' what chance does he have against Luffy? a super merman vs luffy's 3rd gear in terms of pysical power? Luffy so far fought against two SB with logia defence and against Enel (super speed\evasion abilities), and despite the dissadvange against Croc and Moria, he won. what chance does Jinbei have?


that's it, for now.


Dude. Can you be asking me any more of an ass kicking form across the pond? Seriously, are you trying really hard to piss me off about this topic? Because in all honesty you're doing a really bang up job my man.

Jesus fucking Christ you people are stubborn. I'm not going to comment on Jimbei because we haven't seen him yet so I could care less from now until I see him in action against the straw hats. Why are you people treating the straw hats so well? Stop kissing Oda's ass at writing the fucking series. They aren't that strong. Luffy is the only one who has any decent thing besides Zoro. And the only things Zoro can do is cut down giant stuff, and get six arms and swords to take someone down. Big deal. Plus he creates most of his moves while he's fighting. And no I don't consider that to be really cool or great. Oda just keeps adding shit to his portfolio of fighting moves randomly. It's actually getting really really annoying seeing new moves come from the straw hats.


There is little of a connection let alone a connection at all between bounties and power levels. The WG could think that someone that went to the New World with a very weak 2 man pirate crew (with no powers at all) , could be worth as much as a Yonkou just because they've been to the New World and managed to slip by the Red Line, because they had "connections"

Any by the way. To everyone not just Death Booz, who thinks that the straw hats are worth billions. You're all wrong. Very very wrong. To be worth 600 billion, thats more than everyone in the series combined with Roger still being alive. Twice! They're worth 600-700 million, not billion. Adding all of they bounties up gets roughly that amount.

even look at this
http://onepiece.wikia.com/wiki/Straw_Hat_Pirates

What does that last line say, huh? 700 million not billion. Stop adding zeros!! The only person worth even close to a billion, is probably Shanks. Or at least half his crew is worth that. Like him and the best commanders. Lucky Roux, Beckman Yassop all added up together.