whats Enels?
whats Enels?
The "God" that used lightning during the skypiea arc?
No, not really. There are supposedly 7 paths from the Reverse Mountain to Mariejoa. The Strawhats kind of cheated and switched paths, since they found the Eternal Pose to Jaya on the Saint Bliss (the ship that fell out of the sky). Navigation is tough, since without an eternal pose, you have to go to the next island. I'm not surprised nobody on Jaya believed in Sky Island, or had heard of the Skypeian rookie.Originally Posted by Assertn
On the other hand, all the paths converge on the current island, so anybody who listens can hear all the best rumors from the Old World.
Regarding the other route to Skypeia, the Strawhats might have found it if they had taken a different path from Reverse Mountain.
For the past chapters (thriller park) New World's population was mentioned that they are around Luffy's level so while Luffy is considered monster here, in New World he should be another "citizen".
"Life is hilariously cruel" by Bender
I disagree.
The logpose pointed to Sky Island after Arabasta. They made it a point to get off Jaya before their path was altered, so they stuck with their designated route the entire time. This means that Sky Island is part of their path from reverse mountain.
If another path leads to a connecting island that can take you to Sky Island, then travelers who take THAT bridge will be the ones converging onto Luffy's path.
10/4/04 - 8/20/07
Ok, let me throw some things out there that you guys are assuming that may or may not be true, and other things to keep in mind:
1. How recently did he get a bounty? (Remember these guys are rookies)
2. Because he's making the papers, is it being publicized that he's from Skypea?
3. Does anyone beside the readers (us) know he's from Skypea?
4. Do people automatically believe that he's from Skypea given that they are informed?
5. That Jaya believes it is a myth, does it represent the believe of everyone around the world?
Add to that, Jaya people probably knowing the truth now after Luffy went up there and rang the bell and add to that the captain only being a rookie in the biz, then it shouldn't really break continuity.
Remember, One Piece's world is populated by ignorant, ill informed, uneducated people.
And how is that any different from the real world?
Despite this, there are extremely few people who would openly deny something in the face of substantial evidence...like the Holocaust, for example.And how is that any different from the real world?
We know that newspapers get delivered to Jaya, so they can't be TOO ignorant. Plus, if you recall, Jaya was all about bounties and status. That place was being overrun by ruffians bragging about their reputation.
Anyway...
I still find it amazing that other rookies could even come close to luffy's bounty.
This means that all the rookies have higher bounties than Crocodile, and some of them come close/surpass Moria's.
Luffy defeated two shichibukai and destroyed Enis Lobby.
He also has with him Franky and Nico Robin, both of whom were very prized targets of the world government.
Considering from what we know about the World Government, I'd say Luffy should be twice as much of a priority for them as any of these other guys, regardless of whether or not the other guys have been known to attack civilians. I'd also find it hard to believe that any of them have even confronted a shichibukai yet.
I expect to get some good stories about the parallel adventures of the other rookies.
10/4/04 - 8/20/07
Really I don't see any problem with the people of Jaya not believing in Sky Island. Its not like everyone doesn't believe its just that Bellamy and his pirates pretty much controlled the place and they openly ridiculed anyone who didn't believe what they believed so naturally anyone who believed never talked or even mentioned it. So it isn't that no one believed its just that Bellamy didn't believe and him being top dog and all everyone else just went along with him. Its just herd mentality, thats a rational enough explanation.
Much the same I don't see a problem with there being other people having bounties close to or even greater than Luffy's. I mean as you said Luffy and his crew should be a high priority as far as the government is concerned but it doesn't seem that way at all now does it. They are pretty much just letting them run around right under their noses and they don't seem concerned about it at all. Just based on the potential threat Robin poses her bounty should be substantially higher. So I imagine that the government isn't too concerned with Luffy and the others atleast not at this point, for now all they pose is a potential threat not a direct one and it seems that at their current level if the government wished, they could easily crush Luffy and his entire crew, just look at how easily Aokiji or Kuma could have destoyed them. So for now they have bigger fish to fry.
Anyway we have no idea what stuff the other rookies did and as has been mentioned numerous times Luffy and his crew may be big fish in a small pond on this side of the redline but in the new world they would just be average, so I would think there are alot more people with bounties higher than Luffy's.
About the shichibukai their bounties were all suspended when they joined so I imagine if not for that all their bounties would have been much much higher by this point. Besides it seems to me that the shichibukai weren't chosen based on strength or atleast not that alone but rather how useful they could be to the world government and what their sphere of influence was.
Last edited by Abdula; Wed, 04-30-2008 at 07:55 PM.
Dreaming impossible dreams.
Sapphire is awesome!
Back in East Blue they never knew Luffy defeated Kuro, so his initial bounty should have been higher than 30 million.
Now... the World Government ignores he defeated Enel, plus they did not raise his bounty *again* after Moria, because it was 'too soon'.
Taking this things into action... his bounty should be higher indeed....
The rookies most probably did not encounter a Shichibukai... it is just they kill people and their bounties must have grown with every important kill.
Also... being a Shichibukai does not mean they are super powerful... it just means they 'sold' themselves to the World Government.
Just "selling" yourself isn't enough to become a shichibukai though.
Blackbeard had to take out Ace before he was awarded his title.
10/4/04 - 8/20/07
Because prior to that no one knew BlackBeard in the World Government.
The other Shichibukai were sought by the Marines, and they accepted to join.
Super Heros Matchups: There can be only one (or two, when the good guys win)
Capone vs Luffy. the obligatory 'luffy beates up a seemingly strong guy easily'
Big eater (girl) vs Robin & Nami. Kitty fight, Meow.
Basil vs Zoro. a no brainer. the obligatory sword duel.
Kid vs Luffy. another no brainer. it's got Luffy written all over it.
Appo vs Franky
X-drake vs no one. He looks like a good guy that doesn't get ownd by the good guys.
Urouge (sky island man) vs Ussop & Chopper
Killer vs Brooke
Dark doctor vs Sanji
that's my list.
edit: fixed some typing mistakes.
edit2: again.
edit3: again.
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It would be lame if every strawhat beats every rookie. These people are supposed to be captains in direct competition with Luffy (except for the claw guy, who, yeah, is in direct competition with Zoro).
10/4/04 - 8/20/07
True. However, I think it requires a little bit more than just being able to sell yourself or your powers to the government by beating someone. Also, I think that the people should be a bit stronger. I mean, crocodile has the power to create sandstorms with his DF. Now don't get me wrong, Blackbeard is strong, but I don't think he can be compared to the current shichibukai.
If we're talking about short and medium-range combat / destructive ability, Blackbeard seems stronger than both Crocodile and Moria. We've seen that he can take a considerable amount of damage - more than Ace's huge village-sized fireball, at any rate - and the limit to his fighting strength is directly related to how much punishment he can absorb.
As far as the rookies... I think Oda will have most of them survive to continue being rivals in the New World. They could also be used to fight other groups that the Strawhats don't necessarily run into. As of now, I don't really see a Skypeia-style mass elimination thing happening. My guess is that Zoro will run into one since he's wandering alone, and Luffy will probably have to deal with another.
It'd be amusing to see Blackbeard up against Moria. I imagine he'd be able to dispell every single zombie just by touching them.
10/4/04 - 8/20/07
He wouldn't even have to wait for them to get close he could use his dark matter and completely destroy them or he could just suck their shadows right out and absorb them, now that would be cool.
Dreaming impossible dreams.
Sapphire is awesome!
Seeing as Naruto and Bleach returned, did One Piece return also?
One Piece had an additional scheduled break this week in addition to golden week two weeks ago. Couldn't find the source for this, but it was mentioned over at arlong park and franky house.
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