One Piece Manga Discussion: Scanlation/Translated Only

[Assertn]

It's pretty obvious that the strawhats aren't going to defeat yet another shichibukai in such a short timeframe. As with most other series, you can sort of detect a pattern in the arcs after a while, and the trend I see with Oda is that a big battle is always concluded with some sort of chase sequence. Kuma has nothing the pirates want, so it's in there best interest to flee right now. I too interpreted Hogback's recovery and declaration as a hint that he might try to save the day, so we'll see what happens from there.

In any case, the strawhats will be running from this fight.

[Munsu]

That's probably true... but there are also a lot of people that are being targeted, I can't see Luffy and his crew leaving the Island until all of them are safe.

[toonice714]

the new chapter is out. guess everybodyis out preparing to get smashed.
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[rockmanj]

Yea, I dont see any plausible way out of that one. That guy is way too powerful; i mean not only does he have some ridiculously strong ability, he's also like 20 feet tall, with an apparently very muscular physique (including the head!). Yea, everybody is screwed!

[Assertn]

It's kind of neat when a villain shows up in OP that just can't be beaten (whether it be at that point in time or just an overall unfavorable devil-fruit matchup). So far they've done it with...

1) Mihawk (who left of his own volition)
2) Smoker (who gets intercepted first by Dragon and then by Ace)
3) The Ice guy (who left of his own volition)
4) and now Kuma

I kinda prefer it when the main character isn't capable of defeating all the villains himself though.

[rockmanj]

I'm really not sure about what's gonna happen next though, because obviously this guy isn't going anywhere; and the only person that could stand up to him would probably be one of the other Shichibukai [sic], Dragon, or Aokiji (the ice guy). And we have to wait about 2 weeks to see what happens...

[Kensee]

o.O wow ...

Kuma's a strong fellow to say the least ... I don't know whats gonna happen here, not much they can do against him unless the doc and panther somehow come in to interrupt everything. Ah well, can't wait till the next issue +D

[talvaline]

Maybe Dragon will interfere in Luffy's behalf once again and save the crew?

[Death BOO Z]

maybe clogg his hands with something, a la Zaki style.
Robin could probably place her hands over him to take the attack and create an openning for an hit.

it's a question of how the ability works, does he need to create the inital wind for the blast with a pyshical movement, or is it genrated from a 'zero-movement' position?

Actually, Like i said before, I can see Zoro winning this one. all he needs is to learn Mihawks trick of air deflection, even a primitive verse of it could be stop the attacks and make it a fair fight. think about it, how far away (skillwise level) is zoro from creating wind with his slash? it can't be very far, and Zoro always levels up during fights.

[rockmanj]

http://frankyhouse.rhynri.com/One%20...5_%5bFH%5d.zip

get it while its hot!

Geez...Zoro is one tough bastard.

[LaZie]

I thought this was a very "cool" chapter

[Death13a]

Well i just hope there won't be any side effects. One piece is most awesome manga/anime and this chapter just nailed another dozen of nails to confirm it. I quess this part makes it official that Strawhats are not unbeatable as this was their defeat.

[Munsu]

Oh surely... fighting an entire Shichibukai's crew and his zombies, and then have to fight another Shichibukai? With a passed out Luffy? It was a cheapshot more than anything. Remember this all started without them looking for a fight, they got ambushed... and that alone takes out a ton of energy from them.

[Assertn]

I'm sure this will give zoro some newfound respect for luffy.

Kumo's abillites seem ridiculously wild-cardish to be able to do something completely obscure like transfer someone's physical and mental ailments onto another.

[rockmanj]

Well, add to the fact that he's some kind of super-terminator cyborg that was once a pirate (doesnt really make sense) AND has a devil fruit ability. Talk about dues ex machina. Plus it seems he knows Luffy's dad.

[Munsu]

Why doesn't it make sense? Franky exists doesn't he? Why is it so hard to believe that there would be some other cyborg around? I don't see how Kumo being a cyborg and having a devil fruit ability would be considered dues ex machina. Even Sanji almost broke his leg a couple of chapters ago by trying to kick his head. If I'd consider anything being dues ex machina it would be Kuma leaving without killing anyone with some dumb deal done with Zoro.

[Assertn]

Yeah.....the danger level of Kuma's presence dropped really fast in this chapter.
I suppose its fortunate that every single uber-badass that faces up against the strawhats always ends up sparing them due to honor or obligation.

[Death13a]

It does begs a history lesson on why Kuma have so much respect for Dragon? As i am sure Zoro wasn't enough to convince him to let go of Luffy.

[rockmanj]

Why doesn't it make sense? Franky exists doesn't he? Why is it so hard to believe that there would be some other cyborg around? I don't see how Kumo being a cyborg and having a devil fruit ability would be considered dues ex machina. Even Sanji almost broke his leg a couple of chapters ago by trying to kick his head. If I'd consider anything being dues ex machina it would be Kumo leaving without killing anyone with some dumb deal done with Zoro.

I guess cyborg technology is kinda common in that world or something....I took Franky as being like just a cobbled together kinda cyborg, but Kuma is like robocop or some shit,and I didnt mean dues ex machina in the actual sense...it was a bad attempt at punning -_-;;; But anyway, he is freaking ridiculous.

[poopdeville]

Why doesn't it make sense? Franky exists doesn't he? Why is it so hard to believe that there would be some other cyborg around? I don't see how Kumo being a cyborg and having a devil fruit ability would be considered dues ex machina.

The part that doesn't make sense is that Kuma was built by the World Government, was a pirate, knows Dragon, and is now a Shichibukai. Obviously, there's more going on here.