Why doesn't it make sense? Franky exists doesn't he? Why is it so hard to believe that there would be some other cyborg around? I don't see how Kumo being a cyborg and having a devil fruit ability would be considered dues ex machina. Even Sanji almost broke his leg a couple of chapters ago by trying to kick his head. If I'd consider anything being dues ex machina it would be Kuma leaving without killing anyone with some dumb deal done with Zoro.
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Yeah.....the danger level of Kuma's presence dropped really fast in this chapter.
I suppose its fortunate that every single uber-badass that faces up against the strawhats always ends up sparing them due to honor or obligation.
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It does begs a history lesson on why Kuma have so much respect for Dragon? As i am sure Zoro wasn't enough to convince him to let go of Luffy.
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I guess cyborg technology is kinda common in that world or something....I took Franky as being like just a cobbled together kinda cyborg, but Kuma is like robocop or some shit,and I didnt mean dues ex machina in the actual sense...it was a bad attempt at punning -_-;;; But anyway, he is freaking ridiculous.Originally Posted by Munsu
The part that doesn't make sense is that Kuma was built by the World Government, was a pirate, knows Dragon, and is now a Shichibukai. Obviously, there's more going on here.
Kuma is a cyborg, which means that he was originally a human.
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A great chapter, Zoro i so damn Bad ass i love him even more now
As for Kuma leaving, I am sure he thought Zoro would die 99% since only a tennis sized ball of Luffy's pain brought him to his knees screaming and didn't stick around to see it happen (+ he also saw Moria / Oz beaut up Zoro pretty bad, and he gave him a few good hits himself)
This chapter raises a few interesting questions tho, i just hope we get answers to some old ones in the next few, like is Ace dead or not
Sure, but if he was a pirate before getting built, it's hard to see why the Marines would make him stronger. Granted, he's a Shichibukai, but the Shichibukai are one of the three world powers -- the others being the Marines/World Government and the Yonkyou. In short, they're rival powers, even if they have a truce.
He knew Dragon was Luffy's father. Either Garp's been spilling the beans (plausible), or Dragon knew Kuma well enough to tell him about Luffy. Or I guess the Marines could have otherwise collected intelligence, but telling Kuma that would be kind of pointless.
Seems more likely than them building him first, then him becoming a pirate, then him becoming a shichibukai.
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Surely there is something more... but remember that he also mentions that he's an incomplete weapon, so him being able to become a pirate after he was built by the World Government could be explained by him being incomplete. About knowing Dragon... doesn't pretty much everyone at the level of Kuma know him?
That aside, I wonder how tall he is... he seems to be as tall as the giants.
In my opinion the chapter was pretty lame... Kuma left without doing anything, and something that should have without a doubt killed Zoro didn't. It seems like Kuma almost knew he wouldn't die from it yet still agreed to the ridiculous deal AND to not outright kill Zoro but transfer Luffy's pain unto him. Just waaaaay to many things that enabled Zoro and the crew to get away safely (well maybe not safely, but away), and it's not like it isn't the first time we've seen Zoro brutally hurt.
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i dont know if anyone has addressed this yet but kuma is probably the most dangerous df user to date now. if you can repel fatigue and injury from your body that is going to make him a crazy enemy to beat. Granted he probably wont do it again for the sake of the story but still that was a little too much to swallow.
We have to be careful of the translation... it may very well have "extracted" the fatigue, etc. but it doesn't necessarily mean that it removed the fatigue from Luffy.
considering he was jumping around on page 18 telling everybody how he feels great and relaxed, it seems pretty sure it removes it
and yeah Kuma and someone in a tag team (like Blackbeard who has a extreme tolerance for pain) seem like SHs worst nightmare
Everyone who was beat up and were unconscious woke up, so quite some time surely passed. And since when has Luffy needed a lot of time to recover?
am I the only one who suspects that Kuma was altered by using black technology?
the polygraphes described how to build powerful weapons, isn't it possible that he is one of them?
also, I notice a resemblnce between Zoro (p12) and Piccolo. just a graphical similarity.
Well, reading it again it seemed to have relieved some of the pain... but at the same time, some time has passed. Everyone was knocked out because of the previous bomb, which should've been quite powerful.
The Yonkou = Four Emperors... the 4 Greatest Pirates that include White Beard and Shanks. We recently heard of Kaidou who if not mistaken fought with Moria (maybe the guy who destroyed his whole crew).
Wow...that was some good info in that chapter. Also Laboon was wayy to cute!
whats crocodile doing in prison? didn't the shishibukai have immunity from prosecution?
I wonder what will happen with the underwater island.. will the crew ever get there?
also, what sort of prison is impel down? it should be freaky place, built from complete seawater stones to hold so many awsome guys captive.
Crocodile was accused of treason, and it was publicized that Smoker was the one who captured him, as a cover-up for a shichibukai to be defeated. They made a pretty big deal about this, just as they made a big deal about Moria being defeated.
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