I don't think he's a villain

[February]

Gai is an elite jounin (he beat the 30% Kisame clone after all) so I don't know why you're hating on him. It was basically 1 on 1 in his fight with Kisame, since his entire team was incapacitated. I think he would have had an even chance against Kisame, even at full strength. He presented a formidable challenge to the Akatsuki group and Itachi knew it. Which is one of the reasons why Itachi retreated after he joined the fight (the other being the reinforcements that were coming).

He did attack Kakashi with the water technique right after Kakashi joined the fight. That seemed pretty aggressive to me; he could have just stood there waiting to counter their next move. If Itachi really wanted to avoid their fight, he and Kisame could have just run away right at the beginning. They did it easily enough later. My guess is that Asuma and Kurenai pissed him off, and he was going to kill them for interfering with him. I still maintain that Itachi is absolutely evil, but we'll see.

Whats the use of running if they are going to keep chasing you anyway?


I think Itachi retreated that time because:
1) He just used the MS, so he wasnt fully 100% anymore
2) He did not want to create a scene, being a former Konoha ninja, he must have known that eventually the ANBU and other skilled ninjas apart from Gai / Kakashi team will join the fight.


I really doubt that Gai could have taken on Itachi but we havent seen much from both of them so I'll keep my opinion to myself

[SilentSnake]

Honestly - It was pointless to start a fight "Kisame and itachi vs Konoha" if their goal was to capture Naruto... It didn't really mattered who would kill whom and Itachi knew that.

Itachi fought, used MS, retreated, tried to get Naruto, met Jiraiya, said goodbye, told himself Naruto was weak for the time being anyway :P

Why can't it be that simple?

[iMUSTbeTHEdevil]

Gai is an elite jounin (he beat the 30% Kisame clone after all) so I don't know why you're hating on him. It was basically 1 on 1 in his fight with Kisame, since his entire team was incapacitated. I think he would have had an even chance against Kisame, even at full strength. He presented a formidable challenge to the Akatsuki group and Itachi knew it. Which is one of the reasons why Itachi retreated after he joined the fight (the other being the reinforcements that were coming).

He did attack Kakashi with the water technique right after Kakashi joined the fight. That seemed pretty aggressive to me; he could have just stood there waiting to counter their next move. If Itachi really wanted to avoid their fight, he and Kisame could have just run away right at the beginning. They did it easily enough later. My guess is that Asuma and Kurenai pissed him off, and he was going to kill them for interfering with him. I still maintain that Itachi is absolutely evil, but we'll see.

I dont know, Gai did have to unlock what was it 6 gates just to take out a 30% clone? That is alot of effort. I dont know if he could have taken someone with that much Chakra like Kisame one on one. As for Itachi, he only decided to leave when Gai showed up because it was then 4 against 2 and Itachi had just used the MS, so he was tapped.

If Itachi isnt a villian, I dont know who is! -dg-

[masamuneehs]

i so thought this was going to be a thread on whether or not Sasuke is a villain, but...

The OP theory... just seems crazy! An imposter Itachi, yet Itachi acting under super mysterious orders to keep Sasuke thinking it was him... Sorry, I just don't buy it.

The guy's motivation for keeping Sasuke alive aren't clear, but him suggesting that Sasuke kill his best friend, plus the fact that Itachi apparently did this, then killed his parents and clan, and the fact that he's a key member in a group aiming for World Domination Mwahahaha! TM. suggests, somewhat strongly, that he is perhaps one of the worst villains in all of Naruto.

[dsh1202]

I actually agree with this theory because, Itachi could have killed kakashi, but yet he did keep him alive, (very wounded yet alive), and about getting the mangekyou sharingan, If the requirement for it is to kill your best friend, how did kakashi get his? i am pretty sure he didn't kill any of his best friends. I'am not sure if this has already been revealed or anything but if it hasn't, then the requirement for the mangekyou sharingan must be something different, or kakashi found some way around it. but then again, that still raises the question why would itachi tell sasuke that it was the requirement?

[Necromas]

highly... unlikely...

Emphasis on highly, and unlikely.

[Stoopider]

Someone who kills his village. Seem pretty villanioius to me. :P

But then again, evil is subjective. Orochimaru tested on people to gain power. Itachi massacred his family.

[Kyle_A]

if itachi was really good then why didn't he remain in his AMBU postition? seems silly.

[kAi]

Because playing cop is boring, being the robber is so much more fun.

[thejustin2]

and once youve surpassed everyone around you, there isnt many ways to test your strengths. you would decimate everybody anyway. thats why i had to kill all my friends, to see how powerful i really was! it was tough but i managed to pull through. i had to rest for weeks afterward, but i was sure no one was going to bother me being all like "are you ok thejustin?"

[flame2]

It seems to me that Itachi is not actually a villain, but instead was forced to do the evil things he did.

When he came to capture Naruto initially, he told Kurenai and Asuma that he did not intend to hurt them and it seems like he had chances to kill them (Kurenai Asuma Kakashi) but did not deliver fatal blows, instead just tried to stop them.

For some reason, i think Itachi used Mangekyou Sharingan on Kakashi so that Kakashi could copy the technique/ learn how it works, and use it himself for good. By good i mean that Itachi probably has similar motives to the Konoha ninja, but is in a complicated situation.

The situation being Tobi's control over Akatsuki / Itachi. Someone mentioned on the boards that they thought Tobi actually is the one who made Itachi wipe out his clan. And Itachi probably was not supposed to leave Sasuke alive, but did because he is not a villain, and needed someone to surpass him and eliminate Tobi.

And then, Kisame says "From here, it looks like you are crying, Itachi" He seems good.

I somewhat agree.... i do not beleive Itachi is... completely evil. And yes i agree with your tobi theory BUT i do think tobi wanted him to live... so sasuke could be the 3rd MS user. (Itachi Tobi then Sasuke) Yes we know that Kakashi is a MS user HOWEVER, you have to consider the fact that the MS user would have to cooperate in using it. Kakashi wouldnt use the power to unlock the secret tengu power.

(on a a completely diffrent note, if sasuke and itachi fight for REAL, i do NOT think sasuke will win... i think Itachi will come close to killing Sasuke, then Deidara (who wasnt dead) saves sasuke in wanted to kill Itachi)

[Darthmoe]

Mmmhmmm, I told you.

[.noname.silent]

you guys are funny by overthinking it. just enjoy the manga for what it is.

[Assertn]

Mmmhmmm, I told you.

Congrats. So did half the other members on this forum.

[Darthmoe]

Yeah but i made a thread about it and stuff, so i feel extra special. Can't I have my 2 seconds of fame?