'I'm probably going to get hated from this...'

[conquistaDan]

Interesting topic. I have thoughts.

warning I'm going to gethatred from this, but I don't care. I've wanted to say this for a long time and I finally found a thread to do it on:
Over the course of a few months I've been debating on alot of stuff on what kinds of jobs men should do, and what kind of jobs ONLY woman should do. I know it's sexest I don't give a flying fuck.

Here's my list:
Men should:
Anything computer oriented, labor oriented, corporate ownership or running of a company, and generally sweaty or hardworking things. Also anything law oriented.(cop, judge, lawyer etc)

Men shouldn't:
chef (anything involving cooking of food)
media related things-acting, singing, playing in a band of some kind(ownership of a media related company is fine)dancing, hosting a show(directing a movie is also something that I think is manly and ok to do, thats fine)

Teaching is a different field considering professors teach things that are needed and grade school teachers don't. Soo, I don't know about that one

My view on females is that they shouldn't be doing anything in the labor field. But we all know they already do it and I can't say no to that. Just wrong. Anything for woman in the men should not do category is also fine.


thats my take

[Assertn]

words

Yeah, you're pretty much gonna get hatred for this.

[complich8]

wow ... just ... wow.

Let's compare and contrast. My view is that men and women should be able to pursue careers and occupations doing whatever it is they either like to do or are capable of doing, based entirely on their capabilities and aptitudes.

For example, I believe that women shouldn't be firefighters unless they're particularly physically strong. But I also don't think that men should be able to be firefighters unless they're physically fit and strong enough to carry a reasonably large person. In other words, the standard for entry to firefighting is based on physical strength, which is something that naturally biases the profession towards men. However, this doesn't preclude women from meeting that standard and thus gaining entry into the profession.

Similarly, how the hell would you make a reasonably convincing movie with no male actors? How can you claim that there's no value in male musicians? What the hell sort of music do you listen to? What movies are you watching? Or are you sitting in a cave with an internet connection wishing that you lived in a version of 1530, only with computers? You're basically advocating the destruction of all extrinsic forms of entertainment...

Some of the best professors, scientists, programmers, lawyers, doctors, managers and directors I've known are women. The world as a whole would be greatly diminished without them doing what they do.

What a sad, sad world you want to live in.

[conquistaDan]

wow ... just ... wow.

Let's compare and contrast. My view is that men and women should be able to pursue careers and occupations doing whatever it is they either like to do or are capable of doing, based entirely on their capabilities and aptitudes.

For example, I believe that women shouldn't be firefighters unless they're particularly physically strong. But I also don't think that men should be able to be firefighters unless they're physically fit and strong enough to carry a reasonably large person. In other words, the standard for entry to firefighting is based on physical strength, which is something that naturally biases the profession towards men. However, this doesn't preclude women from meeting that standard and thus gaining entry into the profession.

Ok, on this note. I would have no problem at all watching a movie filled only with woman. And any guy who says no to this, to me i label gay or questionable. At least a couple of movies.



My main point is that being an actor isn't deserving of the fame as much as a scientist should be. Watching actors walk down the red carpet makes me sick. Scientists should be taking those walks for curing illness' and world problems. Or solving a great mystery of some kind for the past.


My point being. They provide nothing to the world other than sitting in a movie theater for $10 a ticket. Thats all.


@Yuki:
Let me rephrase what I was saying about the chef. I can let this one slide because they're providing sustenance of food, to society through creativity and hard work. Thats fine with me.


All of you have to understand though. I'm looking at all of these careers through a business point of view. First of all my parents are from the "old country". So i view jobs in America a little differently.(ie, labor intensive things or like I've been saying jobs that provide actual services to society for the better of a society)

Plus I've been running a company for over a year now. So studying business to me is like the only thing I see as the most beneficial to a society that no other job can top, ever. I say thing because business owners (large and small) give jobs to the world. Nothing beats that in terms of giving back to a society. And anyone who disagrees with me should talk to an investor or a business owner sometime.


Thats all I wanted to get across to everyone. Not start a flame war.

[Y]

Thats all I wanted to get across to everyone. Not start a flame war.

Yeah, that's why the first line of your reply is "Anyone who disagrees with me is gay." Not trying to start anything there, are you chief?

[XanBcoo]

All of you have to understand though. I'm looking at all of these careers through a business point of view. First of all my parents are from the "old country". So i view jobs in America a little differently.(ie, labor intensive things or like I've been saying jobs that provide actual services to society for the better of a society)

I don't really see what any of this has to do with men and women.

What you seem to be saying is "Jobs that provide a service for the betterment of society deserve more praise than jobs that provide entertainment." which is totally true!! But that has absolutely nothing to do with men and women's roles in the workforce. Why does it necessarily make a man gay if he can play the guitar like a demon and makes money because of it? Why shouldn't women be allowed to cure cancer? Who does it affect and who gives a shit?

[Board of Command]

Plus I've been running a company for over a year now. So studying business to me is like the only thing I see as the most beneficial to a society that no other job can top, ever. I say thing because business owners (large and small) give jobs to the world. Nothing beats that in terms of giving back to a society. And anyone who disagrees with me should talk to an investor or a business owner sometime.


Thats all I wanted to get across to everyone. Not start a flame war.

I agreed with you until this. Now that just doesn't make sense anymore.

[conquistaDan]

I agreed with you until this. Now that just doesn't make sense anymore.

Why did this last post change your mind? Am I wrong? Ultimately giving jobs back to people is the greatest giveback a human can make to a society. And cancer can't be cured unless a team of doctors is HIRED, to investigate an illness by a hospital that was probably started by a billionaire or some kind of wealth being reinserted back into a nation or town.


@XanBcoo:
You missed my point again. I wasn't saying that it has something to do in the workforce. I was saying that because of the fact that entertainment doesn't really provide anything to a societies building, theres no point in doing it for a job or getting paid for it. A man can play a guitar as much as he wants and sing too. Hell I even do it. But do it as a hobby in private. Getting money for it is living off of something that isn't worth placing into a societies well being, or making it better per say. Thats what I meant. And to answer your gender question. Anyone can cure anything they want.

My main point:
Everyone should try to make a society better. Especially in America or as representation of what living in the US means. But the males of the society should support(through careers) or give back, something great to the or county or given area they live in. It shows something great can be done as a man. And it should always be that way. Shouldn't men always set a good example?Give back and protect?Yes they always should. And the best way to do that is by being in a field that can give back to the world in a big way most beneficial to everyone. A rock band can't do that. Neither can an actor(no matter how many Oscars he or she has)

[Yukimura]

Well it'll mostly be hatred from men he probably don't respect anyway since there are all of maybe 5 girls around here that post often.

Anyway, not out of hate but curiosity, why shouldn't a man be a professional chef? The greatest chefs have traditionally been men, and that was part of the reason why it used to be such a big deal to eat at a fancy restauraunt. Because a highly trained male chef would be preparing the food instead of some housewife who can only cook what she was taught by her mom.

[Board of Command]

Interesting topic. I have thoughts.

warning I'm going to gethatred from this, but I don't care. I've wanted to say this for a long time and I finally found a thread to do it on:
Over the course of a few months I've been debating on alot of stuff on what kinds of jobs men should do, and what kind of jobs ONLY woman should do. I know it's sexest I don't give a flying fuck.

Here's my list:
Men should:
Anything computer oriented, labor oriented, corporate ownership or running of a company, and generally sweaty or hardworking things. Also anything law oriented.(cop, judge, lawyer etc)

Men shouldn't:
chef (anything involving cooking of food)
media related things-acting, singing, playing in a band of some kind(ownership of a media related company is fine)dancing, hosting a show(directing a movie is also something that I think is manly and ok to do, thats fine)

Teaching is a different field considering professors teach things that are needed and grade school teachers don't. Soo, I don't know about that one

My view on females is that they shouldn't be doing anything in the labor field. But we all know they already do it and I can't say no to that. Just wrong. Anything for woman in the men should not do category is also fine.


thats my take

Aside from the cooking part, I agree wholeheartedly.

[Honoko]

My view on females is that they shouldn't be doing anything in the labor field. But we all know they already do it and I can't say no to that. Just wrong. Anything for woman in the men should not do category is also fine.

I need to come out of the lurking shadows to do this:

BWAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHHAA!!!!

........

BWAHHAHAHHAHAHAHAHHAHAHA!!!1!

Oh conquistaDan, you silly silly man.

**returns to lurking...

[el_boss]

Men shouldn't:
...acting, singing, playing in a band of some kind

wtf? So no more movies and no more good music evar?

[eat_toast]

personal problems

Well bottom line is, prepare for every girl you know to hate/divorce/sue you immediately once you expose your "grand theory" to the real world. But try again next time!

[Animeniax]

Well bottom line is, prepare for every girl you know to hate/divorce/sue you immediately once you expose your "grand theory" to the real world. But try again next time!

Unfortunately that's only true in the West. In the East he'll find plenty of women who accept this crap as long as he keeps a roof over their heads and food on the table.

[Foomanchew24]

By saying only men should do sweaty and hard working jobs you got rid of strippers and prostitutes. Thats not a very manly thing. And all that hate on male actors....I would think someone accidentally found dad's stash of gay pron and feels guilty after watching it over and over.

[Terracosmo]

conquistaDAN's mother should have

- Used contraceptives

conquistaDAN's mother shouldn't have

- Resisted dropping conquistaDAN from a rooftop during his infant years

[mage]

Interesting topic. I have thoughts.

warning I'm going to gethatred from this, but I don't care. I've wanted to say this for a long time and I finally found a thread to do it on:
Over the course of a few months I've been debating on alot of stuff on what kinds of jobs men should do, and what kind of jobs ONLY woman should do. I know it's sexest I don't give a flying fuck.

Here's my list:
Men should:
Anything computer oriented, labor oriented, corporate ownership or running of a company, and generally sweaty or hardworking things. Also anything law oriented.(cop, judge, lawyer etc)

Men shouldn't:
chef (anything involving cooking of food)
media related things-acting, singing, playing in a band of some kind(ownership of a media related company is fine)dancing, hosting a show(directing a movie is also something that I think is manly and ok to do, thats fine)

Teaching is a different field considering professors teach things that are needed and grade school teachers don't. Soo, I don't know about that one

My view on females is that they shouldn't be doing anything in the labor field. But we all know they already do it and I can't say no to that. Just wrong. Anything for woman in the men should not do category is also fine.


thats my take

Not sure where I would start on this, but you can definitely start here:

[SK]

I was going to bother...then I realized that'd be pointless.

EDIT: You could have at least came at the subject on a more intelligent tip, but you're obviously not very bright.

Why men are superior to women:
Men= Reason
Women= Passions
Reason is superior to Passions
Men are therefore superior to Women.

You would then need to construct a theory for which jobs require more reason and least passions and which jobs require passion but not much reason.

[Animeniax]

Some would disagree and say women are more reasonable and men think with their penises too much.

conquis gives me the impression he has no luck with the ladies. Probably has some mother issues as well. Or he's Asian.

[SK]

Some would disagree and say women are more reasonable and men think with their penises too much.

conquis gives me the impression he has no luck with the ladies. Probably has some mother issues as well. Or he's Asian.

Its not my own theory just an example of how to have a sexist theory that can actually be taken seriously.