School Days

[shinta|hikari]

No one is saying that Itou is evil by default you idiot. Read back and be enlightened.

What everyone is saying that everything that he did after that was screwed up. He eventually became the way he was at the end BECAUSE of his actions and decisions. Sekai and all the other girls did have something to do with it, but they didnt force him to do anything. He CHOSE to do all of the stuff he did on his own. He is not an innocent child, he should have known better, but continued acting like a jerk.

And your argument about Sekai starting everything is pretty much shot full of holes. Read my and RZ's post to understand.

EDIT: And Mfauli, if you still plan to reply, please, please, try to refute the last criticism I gave in my previous post before saying anything else. Your whole argument is based on that, so if you cant refute it, anything you say will simply be pointless banter based on a fallacy.

[MFauli]

What everyone is saying that everything that he did after that was screwed up. He eventually became the way he was at the end BECAUSE of his actions and decisions. Sekai and all the other girls did have something to do with it, but they didnt force him to do anything. He CHOSE to do all of the stuff he did on his own. He is not an innocent child, he should have known better, but continued acting like a jerk.

It all started with Sekai, that´s a fact.
Everything else you wrote is correct, BUT: If Sekai wouldnt have let herself impregnated, there´d be no problem. Yeah, it wouldnt be alright what else happened, but there´d be nothing else than typical love problems. You build your argument around this, but that´s something that happened in the last episodes. It´s a matter or interpretation, again, but i think, if Sekai wouldnt just have shouted out "im pregnant from you, Itou!!!" in the class room in front of friends and teachers, Itou would have reacted different. At least not as coldly as he did.

in the first place, Sekai didnt know such a tragedy will befall them from such an act, while Itou should have known that what he was doing is hurting people, since he himself admitted that he is "the worst".

LOL, pardon?!?
Sekai´s the only one who sees: "Ah, Itou and Katsura are a pair now" and then choses "damn, but i want Itou....i know that they´re fine, but i have to change that somehow" and then starts her "lessons".
The later development of Itou is no matter to discuss, because he never would have become this person, if Sekai hadnt done what she did at this moment.

Damn feminist, sorry.

[RyougaZell]

It all started with Sekai, that´s a fact.
Everything else you wrote is correct, BUT: If Sekai wouldnt have let herself impregnated, there´d be no problem.
.

Oh heck... you didn't write this shit... yes you did....

So in your opinion, all women that get pregnant without wanting too is their fault? Oh hell... till now I was behaving, not calling names... but man... you surely won the right to be called an idiot.....

It could have been ANY of the girls that got pregnant... Sekai was chosen for being a main character...

Makoto didn't want to get her pregnant? He has 2 options... Don't have sex, or at least get his messy little ones OUT of her... alas... he didn't care...

Sekai didn't shout on the class she was pregnant because she wanted, she did it because he didn't believe her and didn't want to take responsability.

Like shinta|hikari now I also dare you to counter his post (first of this page), and mine from last page (last one). If you make a good post, believable I'll withdraw accepting everyone has their own thoughts. Thing you HAVEN'T done in ANY of your posts. Everyone here agrees everyone is at fault but you, who keep saying Makoto is a poor lamb victim of women sitting on his little-Makoto by themselves and getting him in trouble. Poor poor Makoto... he most surely will go to heaven because he was such an innocent poor boy. BAH!

[MFauli]

Everyone here agrees everyone is at fault but you, who keep saying Makoto is a poor lamb victim of women sitting on his little-Makoto by themselves and getting him in trouble. Poor poor Makoto... he most surely will go to heaven because he was such an innocent poor boy. BAH!

No.
Please read.
Everyone at first agreed that Itou is at fault, he alone. More than anyone shinta wrote that. THEN i went on saying how it wasnt all his fault, and we THEN agreed that everyone was at fault.
Then some idiot went on saying how Itou was so bad, but the girls werent, and that´s why i kept on writing. Everyone´s at fault, everyone at different times of the series. I only said, and still say, that everything began with Sekai, anything else followed her actions.