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    How can it be the female's responsibility to avoid "players"? The fact that they are called players (which I still doubt Makoto is) means that they decieve women into getting into a relationship with them under false pretenses (like the lie that the player will be faithful to the girl, which obviously wont happen since he is a player).

    So you are saying that it is the woman's fault for not being able to see through this facade? I absolutely agree that they are culpable to some extent, but the greater fault lies in the person that initiated the problem in the first place, in this case Makoto and how he went after Sekai (who consistently resisted, at least at first) even if he and Katsura were already going out.

    Makoto wasn't ostracized because he didnt accept the child. He was ostracized because he is a "player" as you call it (proven by the gossip conversations that can be heard when he crossed the hall in episode 11) Indeed, this part of his character was revealed due to Sekai's declaration, but the fact that he was hated because of it is because his actions reflected his character (this includes the exposed affair with Otome, which no decent person would find good).

    Any sort of proper agreement? They did have an agreement, even if its wasnt on paper. Makoto, though he never said it outright, was technically going out with Sekai (since he never denied it either, even if he knew Sekai and everyone else thought it was so). So technically, Sekai does deserve his "love and labor", since she gave her love and labor to him with the premise that it will be returned. What does Makoto do instead? He makes out with Katsura in front of the girl he made pregnant, and THEN messages her to abort the child. That is enough to make anyone snap.

    If you think that all things in this world should be based on your definition of "proper agreement" (whatever that is), then you are a sick and violent (if only morally) individual.

    EDIT: Oh and speaking of rights, you say that Sekai doesnt have the right to anything just because she got knocked up. Well, that is very contentious so I wont even respond to that, but I will ask you this. What gives Makoto the right to get Sekai pregnant and just throw her away like garbage when he doesnt want the child?
    Last edited by shinta|hikari; Thu, 10-04-2007 at 12:05 AM.
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