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    Who could beat Itachi 1 vs. 1?

    Since the general fandom seems to hold Itachi on a higher level than almost every other character, who do you think could beat him from what we've seen so far? Please note this doesn't mean who do you think is stronger because that doesn't apply well to Naruto, it's more a question of who's fighting style gives tham an advantage.

    Characters that I think would beat Itachi:

    Hidan- All he has to do is wound Itachi and since he doesn't have to dodge his opponents attacks he's pretty much guaranteed to at least scratch anyone he gets close too. Also, the fact that he relishes pain takes a lot of the power out of genjutsu.

    Sasori- Puppets are immune to genjutsu and I don't think Itachi could dodge 100 different expertly controlled attackers.

    Jiraiya- This really stems completely from what Itachi himself said because I haven't seen anything from Jiraiya that would leave me to believe that he would beat Itachi. Of course we've also never seen him fight at full power.

    Hiashi Hyuga- Byakugan should be able to analyze chakra flows to predict Itachi's attacks and there has to be a reason why teh Hyuga clan was Konoha's top family and not the Uchiha.

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    I personally don't see why Hidan has an advantage over Itachi that any other ninja of the same skill level wouldn't have. Itachi really doesnt have to be that close to an enemy to do some serious damage and should be able to fight the battle from a distance. Hidan is pretty much defenseless against Tsukiyomi. Hidan's technique works by physically torturing the opponent. Even if Itachi gets trapped in Hidan's technique, he can still use Tsukiyomi before Hidan does any real damage and thoroughly shatter his mind without even physically touching him.

    You might have a point with Sasori though. He could potentially give Itachi one hell of a time.

    Also, I think that Hiashi referred to the Hyuuga clan as Konoha's top family because the Uchihas were pretty much wiped out. A lone Uchiha like Sasuke really doesnt count as a "family".

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    I think the Hyuuga's have always been the top family. And the Uchiha's in some form or another stemmed off from them and developped different eyes. I think it's for that reason that they're newer that they haven't taken that status. Though, it's just all speculation and it could be in fact that there're more Hyuuga's that can inherently use Byakugan as opposed to Uchiha's using Sharingan (which has said only to appear in a select few).

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    The reason the Hyuuga were the "top family" was because they were the oldest and most venerable. That says nothing about their comparative ability. And never once was it said that Hyuuga can predict moves. They can see tanketsu, and they've master a taijutsu which allows them to inject chakra into his oppenent, either to stop chakra flow or cause internal damage. Itachi is the one who can analyze chakra flow and predict the Hyuuga's moves, as a Sharingan user with better speed should be able to take down a taijutsu user.

    Anyway, Uchiha were consider the most powerful clan before the were wiped out. As of now, no one has shown the ability to take down Itachi one-on-one, especially since he wiped out an entire clan of exceptional ninjas at age 13. I think Kisame v. Itachi would be good, but Itachi's skill set is extremely hard to match up against, which is why it seems like only someone else with a sharingan will be able to take him, whether it be Sasuke, Kakashi, Madara, or anyone else.

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    Zero would be able to take down Itachi, he's the leader for a reason (most likely being the most powerful, which is usually how anime goes). Anyways, I'm pretty sure the Byakugan has the ability to look not only at tenketsu but chakra flow. What's the point of hitting tenketsu like he did with Hinata and completely disable her if he couldn't see the flow? Though I haven't rewatched those arcs in a long time.

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    Quote Originally Posted by animus
    Zero would be able to take down Itachi, he's the leader for a reason (most likely being the most powerful, which is usually how anime goes). Anyways, I'm pretty sure the Byakugan has the ability to look not only at tenketsu but chakra flow. What's the point of hitting tenketsu like he did with Hinata and completely disable her if he couldn't see the flow? Though I haven't rewatched those arcs in a long time.
    Who's Zero? And I was thinking of Gaara with his Shakaku could take down Itachi, because he can manipulate his third eye and has a hard defence that Itachi couldn't break alone with his ninjutsu. I'm pretty sure Kisame could also take him Itachi down as well, considering water can destroy Itachi's fire elemental jutsus.

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    Quote Originally Posted by boilerph
    Since the general fandom seems to hold Itachi on a higher level than almost every other character, who do you think could beat him from what we've seen so far? Please note this doesn't mean who do you think is stronger because that doesn't apply well to Naruto, it's more a question of who's fighting style gives tham an advantage.

    Characters that I think would beat Itachi:

    Hidan- All he has to do is wound Itachi and since he doesn't have to dodge his opponents attacks he's pretty much guaranteed to at least scratch anyone he gets close too. Also, the fact that he relishes pain takes a lot of the power out of genjutsu.

    Sasori- Puppets are immune to genjutsu and I don't think Itachi could dodge 100 different expertly controlled attackers.

    Jiraiya- This really stems completely from what Itachi himself said because I haven't seen anything from Jiraiya that would leave me to believe that he would beat Itachi. Of course we've also never seen him fight at full power.

    Hiashi Hyuga- Byakugan should be able to analyze chakra flows to predict Itachi's attacks and there has to be a reason why teh Hyuga clan was Konoha's top family and not the Uchiha.
    All Itachi has to do is look at Hidan and he dies, same with Jiraiya and Hiashi Hyuga too. Sasori has eyes too.. he has a mind, Itachi can still put him in a gengutsu. Furthermore, Itachi doesn't need to dodge 100 controlled attackers, he can make kage bunshins. Itachi is undoubtedly the best fighter in the series, even if he were to be defeated, it would be by a sharingan user.

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    I have zero doubt in my mind that the Akatsuki Leader is far more powerful than Itachi. You're assuming that these skilled ninja would be stupid enough to look him in the eyes. You forget that Hidan self-mutilates himself with immense pain in order to inflict pain on others. He didn't die even due to decapitation. If it was so easy to dodge 100 controlled puppets with just Kage bunshins and to top it off someone as skilled and powerful as Sasori, Sasori would've been easily defeated by some third rate shinobi long ago. The most powerful Kazekage to ever be produced, the third was easily dispatched and taken by Sasori. In the end, Sasuke will most likely be the one to defeat Itachi, but saying Itachi is the best fighter is quite a stretch.

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    only sasuke could beat him becuse of his sharingans... itachi could just copy & predict other enemys moves...

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    Yeah, I think Itachi could beat Hidan easily.

    Just because Hidan is physically immortal doesn't mean he's mentally immortal.....and he probably has a weaker mind that Kakashi.
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    Quote Originally Posted by AssertnFailure
    Yeah, I think Itachi could beat Hidan easily.

    Just because Hidan is physically immortal doesn't mean he's mentally immortal.....and he probably has a weaker mind that Kakashi.

    But what could Itachi use in a genjutsu to damage Hidan? Stabbing him like he did with Kakashi ( or any pain based genjutsu) would just excite him and I doubt Itachi knows any represssed memories that Hidan has.

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    I stopped reading the comic a while back, but isn't the idea that Itachi can instant-kill people kind of suspect at this point? He said himself that him and Kisame could manage a draw at best against Jiraiya which certainly is selling yourself short if you can kill him by looking at him. He ran away from Jiraiya rather than, say, instant kill him by looking at him, which he certainly had the opportunity to do. The two times he has used the Mangekyou Sharingan on someone were just to torture instead of kill them, and the worst damage the Tsukuyomi looked like it would do was drive you insane or turn you into a vegetable (which admittedly is still pretty severe, but doesn't kill you).

    Has he actually used the Mangekyou Sharingan to one-hit kill anyone, yet?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Y
    I stopped reading the comic a while back, but isn't the idea that Itachi can instant-kill people kind of suspect at this point? He said himself that him and Kisame could manage a draw at best against Jiraiya which certainly is selling yourself short if you can kill him by looking at him. He ran away from Jiraiya rather than, say, instant kill him by looking at him, which he certainly had the opportunity to do. The two times he has used the Mangekyou Sharingan on someone were just to torture instead of kill them, and the worst damage the Tsukuyomi looked like it would do was drive you insane or turn you into a vegetable (which admittedly is still pretty severe, but doesn't kill you).

    Has he actually used the Mangekyou Sharingan to one-hit kill anyone, yet?
    Well, I don't think any genjutsu is enough for a kill by itself. The point is to distract, or otherwise incapacitate the enemy. Driving an enemy to insanity, or weakening them enough mentally (thereby draining their physical strength) would be considered incapacitation. Once the enemy is put out of action, the battle is won.

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    Jiraiya could take Itachi, he may not be living afterward, but even Itachi said that a fight against him would only end in death for both of them. So I am going to say Jiraiya.

    assertnfailure (7:40:03 PM): dude....your posts are a bunch of nonsense

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    Jiraiya beating Itachi is a certainty, since Itachi himself admitted so. It might be a draw if they both die, but it will definitely end with Itachi dying.

    Sasori will eat Itachi alive, just because he doesnt have real eyes, and one prick from him means death. I honestly believe that Sasori is one of the strongest and deadliest in Naruto. It just so happens that the ones to fight him were the worst possible enemies for his style (excluding Tsunade, who is his imminent death)
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    Maybe if we bring the Sandaime/Yondaime, I bet they could kick Itachi's ass.

    Sandaime has a whole selection of jutsus to choose from, considering he was the most strongest Hokage who ever lived. If he wasn't in his old age, he could probably take down Itachi, and for a last resort, the Shinigami Forbidden Jutsu would do the trick.

    Yondaime, well, because he had that "godly-speed" technique that would prove faster than Itachi's eyes (unless they work the moment he looks at their body parts). I'm thinking there's no limit to this skill, because in Kakashi Gaiden, he virtually teleported right to Kakashi and his team. Plus, if you add the Rasengan and Kage Bunshins, Yondaime would definitely beat Itachi. Again, Shinigami Forbidden Jutsu could be used as a last resort.

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    I think we have to wait and see how the story plays out a little more. His objectives and priorities dont seem to be set strait, seeing as how he wasted his mangyekou to have fun torturing Sasuke instead of using it on Jiraiya and running away w/ Naruto.

    I was thinking perhaps he doesn't use his sharingan to the fullest extent because it hurts his eyes as Kakashi has said, but that still doesnt explain why he wastes his oppertunities on Sasuke.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Carnage
    His objectives and priorities dont seem to be set strait, seeing as how he wasted his mangyekou to have fun torturing Sasuke instead of using it on Jiraiya and running away w/ Naruto.

    ...but that still doesnt explain why he wastes his oppertunities on Sasuke.
    His goal for Akatsuki was to obtain the 9-tails. With everyone saying how good a chance Jiraiya has of beating Itachi, Itachi was not going to fulfilll the goal at the time.

    His longstanding personal goal/objective/priority is to see Sasuke reach his limits as an Uchiha. Killing the Uchiha clan started that goal and using Mangekyou on Sasuke in that situation was a reminder for Sasuke to push even harder to obtain that goal.

    IMO, it's needless to say that it worked. I dont think anyone has gotten stronger pre-timejump up to now than Sasuke. The guy is high level in speed, analysis in battle, ninjutsu (remember he has a "that jutsu" too), taijutsu, and genjutsu/sharingan use. The guy is practically Akatsuki level if he isnt already.

    So yeah, besides Jiraiya, I'm basically saying Sasuke currently has the best chance out of everyone to beat Itachi.

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    To answer the original question of this thread...

    Tobi. Hands down.

    Edit: To the neg rep person... yes we have if you look around this thread. Also be nice .
    Last edited by Kensee; Fri, 07-27-2007 at 02:31 AM.

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