Movie: The Dark Knight

[Lucifus]

Seeing er 7:30; got VIP tickets. Hopes it turns out good.

Edit: And the Verdict in; the Joker is the best villain out there. Sick movie.

Did the guy that played the Joker really die though? =S

[Carnage]

The Joker was the only part of this movie that I liked.

I was quite disappointed.

And jesus they really went out of their way for propaganda.

[Assertn]

The Joker was the only part of this movie that I liked.

I was quite disappointed.

And jesus they really went out of their way for propaganda.

Maybe most of the theatrical elements were too deep for you.
At least the professional critics caught on.

There are so many intricacies....foreshadowing, symbolism....I loved, for example, how Harvey's luck came from a two-headed coin, showing that he controlled his own luck. Then, after the explosion, half the coin blackened, and, likewise, he became a man of chaos.

The Joker, despite being a crazed lunatic, actually had a method to his madness, and saw beauty in peoples' true colors. This made for an even nicer twist when his expectations weren't met with the ferries he set up.

The movie really felt that the tighter the good guys tried to grip gotham, the more out-of-control things became, which added an overwhelming sense of helplessness and panic. And here I didn't expect the Joker to be anyone special...

[Carnage]

Maybe most of the theatrical elements were too deep for you.
At least the professional critics caught on.

There are so many intricacies....foreshadowing, symbolism....I loved, for example, how Harvey's luck came from a two-headed coin, showing that he controlled his own luck. Then, after the explosion, half the coin blackened, and, likewise, he became a man of chaos.

The Joker, despite being a crazed lunatic, actually had a method to his madness, and saw beauty in peoples' true colors. This made for an even nicer twist when his expectations weren't met with the ferries he set up.

The movie really felt that the tighter the good guys tried to grip gotham, the more out-of-control things became, which added an overwhelming sense of helplessness and panic. And here I didn't expect the Joker to be anyone special...

The symbolism wasn't anything complicated. At all. I did admit they did a good job in several areas. They captured the internal conflict that Batman had to be perfect justice but human at the same time, just as it was in the Long Halloween. And I said that they did a great job with the Joker's and Dent's characters. Especially with the Joker seeing himself as the only "sane" one.

But there were several scenes that were just fucking stupid. The first court case, the infiltration in china, the conflict with the spying on people through cell-phones (a parallel to the war), and the ferry scene was just ridiculous.

Like I said before, this movie was more a mix of great parts and simply disappointing moments.

professional[/i] critics caught on.

If critics weren't so full of shit maybe I'd care.

Edit: I have to admit though, what they did with the whole mad dog theme in the movie was pretty good. Having the Joker act on whim the entire time, hang his head outside the cop car, use the dogs on batman, etc, the writers did a good job on the villains.

[Jessper]

But there were several scenes that were just fucking stupid. The first court case, the infiltration in china, the conflict with the spying on people through cell-phones (a parallel to the war), and the ferry scene was just ridiculous.

Perhaps you would like to expand here? Maybe in fact you are missing the symbolism. That or you have some bias for something that happened (it seems anything that might be perceived to be about the war is a nerve for you?)

A fair number of people seem to hate this movie because everyone else liked it. That is my guess at their reasoning anyways.

[Carnage]

Perhaps you would like to expand here? Maybe in fact you are missing the symbolism. That or you have some bias for something that happened (it seems anything that might be perceived to be about the war is a nerve for you?)

A fair number of people seem to hate this movie because everyone else liked it. That is my guess at their reasoning anyways.

I don't like how they incorporated the war somehow ever 20 minutes. It was annoying as fuck.

But you're probably right about everyone else who hated it. Although I don't hate it, I just am dissatisfied that it could have been perfect, but wasn't.

[Assertn]

The ferry scene wasn't ridiculous at all.
It was a turning point in the series.