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    I am not sure that this is not the best movie ever. For one, no movie has ever entertained me to this extent. It had everything cerebral entertainment with all the probing and layer by layer removal of all those things that hide our basest human instincts, along with the revalations of hypocrisy you encounter along the way; brutal violence and eye candy explosions. Decent martial action, excellent if you want it to fit in with Batman; fantastic character development; engaging story line. Allf of this was fit in to a world expertly crafted in the first movie.

    As far as the arguments concerning the parallelism to the Iraq war and current fights for freedom, I don't see the point. Bringing up the joker, in any portrayal of him I've ever seen, brings up the idea of chaos. It's necessary that terrorism and chaos be brought up if you want to do a portrayal of the joker that does reflect what the joker is about. Even if you don't call it terrorism, that's what the joker has always done. The comment the director made about the parallels to the iraq war, was based on that chaos. Parallels to any other war can be made on that basis. So no it's not really a political statement that was made with the themes that the movies portrayed as relates to the joker. It's just that, when you speak of the joker in general, those themes come up, and they relate to other situations where chaos prevails.

    As far as the cellphone thing is concerned, I do agree that this type of spying ability is something the Batman almost always had in the comics, however, Lucius's reaction to it, is DEFINITELY a political statement, and all I could think when I saw him react that way was "you fucking pansy". Not that that has anything to do with where I stand on things irl. It just felt like, something that broke immersion for a second. That's about the only part of the movie that did that though, because it had no precedence in the beginning of the movie, or the first movie, and wasn't further developed. Everything else was great.

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    Lets see....who hasn't been done...there's the mad hatter, Talia Al Ghul, Calendar Man, Clay Face, Firefly, Killer Croc, Hugo Strange, and Scarface. Although it would be difficult to use some of these characters and keep the movie realistic, but I don't doubt the writers. Hopefully we'll get to see either the Riddler or Catwoman.

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    Well talia al ghul wouldn't be an enemy, since she is his love interest, and she isn't really a villain either, plus they pretty much need to bring ra's back for her to show up, so that won't happen for a long time i think.
    Killer croc was also already done in gotham knight, which takes place between batman begins and dark knight.

    Bane or ventriloquist would be nice.
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    I'm hoping cat woman for the next one... They really need to salvage her reputation because of the last cat woman movie.
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    I just watched this movie, and it was FTW!!!

    Amazing joker. The pencil magic scene was my favorite part. Absolute madness portrayed through impeccable method acting... What else can I ask for?

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    The writer/director already said they wouldn't use penguin or catwoman. Riddler mite work if they do him properly (which they obviously will)....the whole jim carey, green suit thing was kinda corny, but if they make him some genius who likes to fuck with people and play mind games, i think they can have another iconic villain.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Assassin
    but if they make him some genius who likes to fuck with people and play mind games, i think they can have another iconic villain.
    Like the Joker?

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    joker was more psychotic and less mind games....i envision riddler as more of a learned criminal. Think psychiatrist prisoner chick from HxH.

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    I hope they make him a lot more threatening than he was in The Long Halloween...if he is in the next movie at all.

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    This made me laugh. Batman really does speak like that some times.
    "Our hearts are full of memories but not all of them reflect the truth. The heart isn't a recording device. Even important memories change with time. They warp or fade, leaving us with but a shadow of what we hoped to remember." 天の道を行き、全てを司る。これは僕の世界。

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    That was absolutely hilarious!

    That was one of my problems with this Batman... Too much monster voice... I don't really mind a little voice alteration, but at times I couldn't understand what he was saying,or it looked too fake and corny. But its not a big enough deal to affect my viewing pleasure.

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    Oh God, that video is complete win. THANKS hahahahhahahah

    PS - I'd like to see Harley Quinn and Poison Ivy
    How did Robin come in the story anyway? If he did, would he be one of those Batman impersonators?
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    Robin's parents died due to the Zucco's (another mob gang) threatening the circus. Bruce Wayne was there at the time and adopted Robin. Bruce Wayne finds a partner in crime. Batman is no longer alone.

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    This one is great also. He made a lot of other great video also and the voice acting is spot on.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Carnage
    Lets see....who hasn't been done...there's the mad hatter, Talia Al Ghul, Calendar Man, Clay Face, Firefly, Killer Croc, Hugo Strange, and Scarface. Although it would be difficult to use some of these characters and keep the movie realistic, but I don't doubt the writers. Hopefully we'll get to see either the Riddler or Catwoman.
    As they seem to be doing a different take on that Batman Mythos, such as taking out Al Ghul's immortality, and putting in no real background for Joker, it is possible that we've already been introduced to the Riddler. In previous incarnations the Riddler was Edward Nigma (E. Nigma), and depending on which line of comics you read, he is dangerous to Batman because he knows Batman's identity. Just the same, in TDK we are introduced to the Wayne Enterprise Employee who learns that Wayne is Batman, but is convinced not to tell the world (I won't say why, to avoid spoilers for those that haven't seen the movie), however, the name of the employee is Mister Reese (Mysteries).

    I know, it's a stretch, but I'm just saying...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dark Dragon
    This one is great also. He made a lot of other great video also and the voice acting is spot on.
    "Let's go watch the clown with the M16 open fire on a school bus." I love it. I watched most of the other Marvel vs. DC vids as well. Hilarious stuff.
    "Leaving hell is not the same as entering it." - Tierce Japhrimel

  17. #137
    Quote Originally Posted by Psyke
    This made me laugh. Batman really does speak like that some times.
    I was watching this at work today and almost LOL'd. I had to stop myself.

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    There's not much else to say other than the fact that this is one of the best movies I've ever seen, top 5 without a problem, maybe even top 3. I don't watch movies that much, and when I do it's rarely movie which entertains me so much that I feel it to be flawless. But DK did that. Amazing, nothing less.

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    I wasn't blown away by this like I thought, but damn it was really good. I've become an instant fan of Aaron Eckhart.

    There were lots of little things about the Joker that made him an attractive character, like the differing stories about the scars and the whole dog motif. I especially loved the teeth-licking tick that Ledger gave him. I always appreciate actors giving evil characters compulsive ticks that give you the extra sense of psychosis and uneasiness. Brilliant.

    Quote Originally Posted by Assertn
    I do agree with the people saying that Two Face felt kind of rushed.
    Agree with this as well. Although to me it seems like the focus of the story was more about Dent than it was about the Joker. The whole movie was built around the Dark Knight/White Knight theme and the fate of Gotham. The Joker simply introduced chaos into the story. Made sense to me that the story continued after The Joker had lost (just as the story of No Country for Old Men continued after it's "plot" ended). I just wish they hadn't dispatched of Two-Face so quickly.
    Quote Originally Posted by Carnage
    And yes it was ridiculous, the writer's could have done better than having a stereotypical convict show an actual "heart" and a bunch of rowdy citizens on the other ferry freak out. It should have been more grand.
    Also agree with this somewhat. I was expecting something a little more profound and bitterly real. It could have been something to the effect of "People are naturally chaotic but here is how they deal with it" rather than "People are good at heart and won't harm anyone. Even the 7 foot tall convict who probably raped someone has a heart of gold deep down". It just felt like too stereotypical a conclusion in comparison to the rest of the movie.

    <@Terra> he told me this, "man actually meeting terra is so fucking big", and he started crying. Then he bought me hot dogs

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    Also agree with this somewhat. I was expecting something a little more profound and bitterly real. It could have been something to the effect of "People are naturally chaotic but here is how they deal with it" rather than "People are good at heart and won't harm anyone. Even the 7 foot tall convict who probably raped someone has a heart of gold deep down". It just felt like too stereotypical a conclusion in comparison to the rest of the movie.
    Didn't you guys know that the guy was suicidal? He had already attempted to kill himself 10 times already, but the prison guards always got in the way of the attempt. He was actually on his way to the mental hospital when all hell broke loose. This was his perfect opportunity to kill himself. I'm really surprised no one caught that.

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