Naruto Shippuuden Episode 16

[masamuneehs]

Buffalo: I thought the same thing, that Anon shouldn't have been able to use Kisame's sword, Yuura not be able to do Sharingan. But as Kakashi mentions about the Fireball jutsu, it's a trademark of the Uchiha clan and the one made by the "sacrifice" was the real deal. It makes me think that chakra has some genetic, along with physical and mental aspect to it, since putting Itachi's in Yuura's body gave him Sharingan.

I think it was more the limit on the chakra, only being 30%, that caused "Itachi" to say that he couldn't use Mangekyou Sharingan, hinting that he'd be unable to fight and use that jutsu all at the same time with just under a third of his chakra.

[RyougaZell]

Even Kakashi was surprised about the Jutsu used so Yura became Itachi.

Yet, this isn't the first time we have seen something like this. Remember Orochimaru's Edo Tensei, resurrecting Chodaime and Nidame... the difference is that they were dead.

[ASSpirine]

Even Kakashi was surprised about the Jutsu used so Yura became Itachi.

Yet, this isn't the first time we have seen something like this. Remember Orochimaru's Edo Tensei, resurrecting Chodaime and Nidame... the difference is that they were dead.

If you look at the whole, then Edo Tensei is a much better jutsu than the shapeshifting jutsu (Shouten no jutsu). Where you are limited with the death of the possessed, Edo tensei doesn't have that. When limbs are severed they would grow back, all the jutsu's the former shinobi had are still usable. Seems like Oro would win this one thanks to his research

[RyougaZell]

Maybe. But the user of Edo Tensei must be dead to be resurrected.
This technique used by 'Zero' (who started to call him this?) allows someone alive to battle away from battle.

[ASSpirine]

Decent episode I guess. The story is moving along.

The best part of the episode was seeing Temari in the hot springs.

When are they gonna stop with that stupid end? I want one more minute of Naruto instead of that "introduction" thing about what happened in the past of Naruto...

Well, I didn't think he'd die.

I was honestly expecting them to pull the Shukaku out, then, he'd be rescued before he'd be disposed of. And he'd have to learn to use his own chakra instead of shukaku's.

Now I guess they'll just rescue him before he loses Shukaku, since I doubt they're gonna kill him off.

Maybe it's just me then. I assumed it immedeately when they started extracting.

Maybe. But the user of Edo Tensei must be dead to be resurrected.
This technique used by 'Zero' (who started to call him this?) allows someone alive to battle away from battle.

I think you mean the one that's resurrected? Didn't know that oro was dead :P
True, the flaw is you cannot use someone alive, but you can use so many great shinobi's from the past. If it is possible, you can use all the kages as your personal army. Although we don't know what the restrictions are.

I think most of the people started calling him that after they started the extracting jutsu. It's easier to call him zero instead of the leader of the akatsuki.

[uhicha neji]

What I don't understand is how Neji saw Kisame's enormous amount of chakra, when the sacrafice only had 30% of his max power.

[ASSpirine]

What I don't understand is how Neji saw Kisame's enormous amount of chakra, when the sarafice only had 30% of his max power.

Maybe it just means that Kisame has a really enormous amount of chakra. Or a flaw from the producers. Even the great Byakugan couldn't see that it was just a jutsu. The universe is doomed

[Assertn]

What I don't understand is how Neji saw Kisame's enormous amount of chakra, when the sacrafice only had 30% of his max power.

Neji observed that Kisame's chakra was comparable to Naruto's when Naruto went kyubi against Neji.

This is to say, that Kisam'e chakra is 3x that of the initial-form Kyubi Naruto...so maybe it's 2x 1-tailed kyubi naruto?

[ASSpirine]

Buffalo: I thought the same thing, that Anon shouldn't have been able to use Kisame's sword, Yuura not be able to do Sharingan. But as Kakashi mentions about the Fireball jutsu, it's a trademark of the Uchiha clan and the one made by the "sacrifice" was the real deal. It makes me think that chakra has some genetic, along with physical and mental aspect to it, since putting Itachi's in Yuura's body gave him Sharingan.

It's a trademark, but that doesn't mean others can't use it. Maybe some bad examples, but Kakashi and Sarutobi could use them too. I think if Naruto trained in it he could do it too. As it was explained, you concentrate the chakra in your throat or mouth (whatever) and blow it out.

[animus]

I think there's a plothole, how does Kisame infusing his chakra into a sacrifice allow that sacrifice to magically grow Samahada? (Kisame's sword that shaves). It's not like it's a sword made out of chakra that he than materialize. Maybe the sacrifice was given the actual sword, and when he died, like in a previous episode Kisame recalled his sword away from Gai after it pierced his hands, just like Harry Potter summoning his broom? >_>

[ASSpirine]

I think there's a plothole, how does Kisame infusing his chakra into a sacrifice allow that sacrifice to magically grow Samahada? (Kisame's sword that shaves). It's not like it's a sword made out of chakra that he than materialize. Maybe the sacrifice was given the actual sword, and when he died, like in a previous episode Kisame recalled his sword away from Gai after it pierced his hands, just like Harry Potter summoning his broom? >_>

Maybe a henge of a clone or some sorts. Just transforming stuff into other stuff isn't that hard. It's academy graduation test.

[animus]

Hm, that's true. I didn't see any chakra-eating from the sword, probably cause it wasn't the original.

[redcat]

a wizard did it

[ASSpirine]

I did wonder why Zero didn't ask Kisame what he found out about his opponents. I think the unlocking gates of Gai are quite interesting to know off.

[DB_Hunter]

I did wonder why Zero didn't ask Kisame what he found out about his opponents. I think the unlocking gates of Gai are quite interesting to know off.

I don't think Kisame realised what the hell Gai did... he was just in total shock during the whole water evaporation thing...

[Assassin]

i believe it was masa that started calling him Zero, back when we first got a glance at all thier rings.

anyway, fairly good ep. i liked it better then the last couple of eps. I always thought the magic clone jutsu was zetsu's.....but apparently its zero's technique. Was it ever stated in the manga that it's zero's technique? cuz i dont remember him saying that.

[DarthEnderX]

If you look at the whole, then Edo Tensei is a much better jutsu than the shapeshifting jutsu (Shouten no jutsu). Where you are limited with the death of the possessed, Edo tensei doesn't have that. When limbs are severed they would grow back, all the jutsu's the former shinobi had are still usable. Seems like Oro would win this one thanks to his research

I also think that is the people being cloned by his technique weren't so tied up extracting Gaara beast that the fight would have been alot more even.

I mean, whats to say you can't, say, give your clone 95% of your chakra while you go relax someplace?

[Nai]

I knew Zetsu was a badass from the moment I saw him. Now we have him running around eating corpses while making conversation with his plant friend. Seems like he was really keen on the idea of devouring Kisame's sacrifice, too.

I seriously cannot wait to see this guy actually fight. He, in my opinion, has some of the most ideal ninja skills out there. Not to mention the fact that his whole body is seemingly embedded into that plant of his. Now that just screams ultimate defense.

[ASSpirine]

I also think that is the people being cloned by his technique weren't so tied up extracting Gaara beast that the fight would have been alot more even.

I mean, whats to say you can't, say, give your clone 95% of your chakra while you go relax someplace?

We saw Itachi and Kisame "waking up" when their "clones" were dead. So this meand they were very vulnerable at that time. If they get attacked and they manage to be alive, then I think the chakra you used for the clone will just vaporise into the air. So leaving the user with only 5%. At least that's what I think.

But the fact that they did this with a middle man (Zero) is interesting.

[hiddenpookie]

This episode was awesome, I liked it.

Zetsu is totally badass with the corpse eating... I dont know about you guys but Gaara seems pretty damn dead to me... Hell even his eyes have gauged out