Naruto Shippuuden Episode 16

[Buffalobiian]

Okay episode, pros and cons balanced out I think.

Previous speculation was that Itachi couldn't use his M. Sharingan because of the clone's normal eyes. If these clones of Zero's are "perfect" replicas, with every bit of anatomical detail mimicked, then the M.Sharingan should work, leaving the only real limit being the chakra sacificed, as they put it.

But in the case where it can't be replicated, then the same should apply to the regular sharingan, shouldn't it? Bloodline Limit- Can't be learnt or copied. Genetic.

[masamuneehs]

Buffalo: I thought the same thing, that Anon shouldn't have been able to use Kisame's sword, Yuura not be able to do Sharingan. But as Kakashi mentions about the Fireball jutsu, it's a trademark of the Uchiha clan and the one made by the "sacrifice" was the real deal. It makes me think that chakra has some genetic, along with physical and mental aspect to it, since putting Itachi's in Yuura's body gave him Sharingan.

I think it was more the limit on the chakra, only being 30%, that caused "Itachi" to say that he couldn't use Mangekyou Sharingan, hinting that he'd be unable to fight and use that jutsu all at the same time with just under a third of his chakra.

[RyougaZell]

Even Kakashi was surprised about the Jutsu used so Yura became Itachi.

Yet, this isn't the first time we have seen something like this. Remember Orochimaru's Edo Tensei, resurrecting Chodaime and Nidame... the difference is that they were dead.

[ASSpirine]

Even Kakashi was surprised about the Jutsu used so Yura became Itachi.

Yet, this isn't the first time we have seen something like this. Remember Orochimaru's Edo Tensei, resurrecting Chodaime and Nidame... the difference is that they were dead.

If you look at the whole, then Edo Tensei is a much better jutsu than the shapeshifting jutsu (Shouten no jutsu). Where you are limited with the death of the possessed, Edo tensei doesn't have that. When limbs are severed they would grow back, all the jutsu's the former shinobi had are still usable. Seems like Oro would win this one thanks to his research

[RyougaZell]

Maybe. But the user of Edo Tensei must be dead to be resurrected.
This technique used by 'Zero' (who started to call him this?) allows someone alive to battle away from battle.

[ASSpirine]

Decent episode I guess. The story is moving along.

The best part of the episode was seeing Temari in the hot springs.

When are they gonna stop with that stupid end? I want one more minute of Naruto instead of that "introduction" thing about what happened in the past of Naruto...

Well, I didn't think he'd die.

I was honestly expecting them to pull the Shukaku out, then, he'd be rescued before he'd be disposed of. And he'd have to learn to use his own chakra instead of shukaku's.

Now I guess they'll just rescue him before he loses Shukaku, since I doubt they're gonna kill him off.

Maybe it's just me then. I assumed it immedeately when they started extracting.

Maybe. But the user of Edo Tensei must be dead to be resurrected.
This technique used by 'Zero' (who started to call him this?) allows someone alive to battle away from battle.

I think you mean the one that's resurrected? Didn't know that oro was dead :P
True, the flaw is you cannot use someone alive, but you can use so many great shinobi's from the past. If it is possible, you can use all the kages as your personal army. Although we don't know what the restrictions are.

I think most of the people started calling him that after they started the extracting jutsu. It's easier to call him zero instead of the leader of the akatsuki.

[uhicha neji]

What I don't understand is how Neji saw Kisame's enormous amount of chakra, when the sacrafice only had 30% of his max power.

[DarthEnderX]

If you look at the whole, then Edo Tensei is a much better jutsu than the shapeshifting jutsu (Shouten no jutsu). Where you are limited with the death of the possessed, Edo tensei doesn't have that. When limbs are severed they would grow back, all the jutsu's the former shinobi had are still usable. Seems like Oro would win this one thanks to his research

I also think that is the people being cloned by his technique weren't so tied up extracting Gaara beast that the fight would have been alot more even.

I mean, whats to say you can't, say, give your clone 95% of your chakra while you go relax someplace?

[Nai]

I knew Zetsu was a badass from the moment I saw him. Now we have him running around eating corpses while making conversation with his plant friend. Seems like he was really keen on the idea of devouring Kisame's sacrifice, too.

I seriously cannot wait to see this guy actually fight. He, in my opinion, has some of the most ideal ninja skills out there. Not to mention the fact that his whole body is seemingly embedded into that plant of his. Now that just screams ultimate defense.

[ASSpirine]

I also think that is the people being cloned by his technique weren't so tied up extracting Gaara beast that the fight would have been alot more even.

I mean, whats to say you can't, say, give your clone 95% of your chakra while you go relax someplace?

We saw Itachi and Kisame "waking up" when their "clones" were dead. So this meand they were very vulnerable at that time. If they get attacked and they manage to be alive, then I think the chakra you used for the clone will just vaporise into the air. So leaving the user with only 5%. At least that's what I think.

But the fact that they did this with a middle man (Zero) is interesting.

[DarthEnderX]

We saw Itachi and Kisame "waking up" when their "clones" were dead. So this meand they were very vulnerable at that time. If they get attacked and they manage to be alive, then I think the chakra you used for the clone will just vaporise into the air. So leaving the user with only 5%. At least that's what I think.

Oh I agree with you that that's how it works. But I would think that having a clone fight your enemies with 95% of your enemies with the offchance that someone else comes up on your real self is still preferrable to fighting your enemies in person with 100% of your power and dying if you lose.