well at some sort of episodes he really looks badass after chuunin exam he is just a fine comrade.Originally Posted by Kitsune
back to thread,
i would say that,
even all those badasses they are all loyal to their master like Kimimaro, Haku and many others.
Kimimaro is my favorite badass!(as i said before)
and i rly loved the match between him and Gaara(also a nice badass)
This thread has made me realize for the first time just how small the world of Naruto really is. Almost all of the non-filler villains have been mentioned, and I can see just how outnumbered they are to the good guys.
Ummm, nobody's mentioned Kabuto yet, and though he isn't my favorite, I must say, he's piqued my interest a bit. He seems like a loyal spy for Orochimaru, but then he voluntarily helps Hinata during the Neji/Naruto fight. He may have done this simply to escape detection, but he also seemed genuinely concerned for her health. So....what kind of conscience complex does this guy have?
Who ever said villains must be mindless terror machines? Villains are actually far more free to do whatever they want than the good guys. Of course if we are talking about serial killers, rapists, and robbers, we can assume they aren't predisposed to help random damsels in distress, but Kabuto is a medical ninja. He happens to be helping Oro, but I think that's because of technocratic and scienfitic interests, not because he particularly wants to be a villain. And that's actually fully compatible with Oro himself who's after all the jutsus in the world, and just happens to be totally free of a nuisance called conscience...
Badass != bad guy
kabuto has been mentioned
Kabuto is a career follower. He idolizes and worships Orochimaru. Therefore he can't be the best. He needs someone to tell him what to do all the time.
“For God will not permit that we shall know what is to come... those who by some sorcery or by some dream might come to pierce the veil that lies so darkly over all that is before them may serve by just that vision to cause that God should wrench the world from its heading and set it upon another course altogether and then where stands the sorcerer? Where the dreamer and his dream?”
Peh....how powerful can oro be if he ran away from S-ranked villain club?
10/4/04 - 8/20/07
I think you maybe mean Kimimaro? Or Haku?
People seem to be forgetting that there was a time when we were led to believe that Kabuto might betray Orochimaru... when he was helpless with his stone-arms, and as Kabuto was questioning the lengths to which Oro was going to acquire Sasuke (jealousy?), the relationship between them was strained. Oro directly addresed this, directly questioning Kabuto about his loyalty. Hell, they even had a cliffhanger (either mid-episode or at the end of one) where Tsunade meets with Oro, supposedly to give him back his power, and Kabuto intervenes against Oro's wishes. Oro turns, snarling at Kabuto's intrusion, and at that point I really believed Kabuto had betrayed him.
To me, he's one of the less loyal bad guys, as he's actually questioned his master's decision. I don't see how you can put him on the same level as Haku and Kimi, two obsessively loyal followers. I've never seen that much indication that Kabuto 'idealizes' Oro, but he does seem to think it's best to stick with him. I don't think his motivation for doing so has been made clear yet.
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I've to agree with Masa. It seems to me Kabuto wants something from Oro or expects to gain something by sticking close to him. But it certainly also looks like he fears Orochimaru, more so than idolizes. He's not stupid at all, from what I've seen. In a certain sense Oro is a medical ninja himself, with all the strange body and spirit alterations and techniques he seems to excel at, and thus there's always much in common for him and Kabuto.
Lols....except.....
After that scene...Oro says,
"To think you've come this far to betray me at the end.......TSUNADE!!"
Then talks about how he trusts Kabuto with his whole heart or some junk like that.
I could've sworn there was another scene too where we were led to question Kabuto's loyalty....he's a pretty interesting character regardless.
10/4/04 - 8/20/07
You mean the one where Kabuto draws a scalpel over the unconscious body of Sasuke after Oro told him to kill Sasuke if he( Kabuto) planned on betraying him.
My favorite bad guy so far was Gaara. His whole unhinged, crazy eyes, I could kill anyone in the room with me at any time persona was great. Anytime he was on screen I was almost expecting him to kill a major character out-of-the-blue. Nobody else gives that sense of not being sure what they'll do.
well he mentioned it that he though kabuto had betrayed himthe point that kabuto saved him proves that he really wants to get somethign from orochimaroand at that point I really believed Kabuto had betrayed him
yes that was the episode where kabuto and orochimaro had little conflict.You mean the one where Kabuto draws a scalpel over the unconscious body of Sasuke after Oro told him to kill Sasuke if he( Kabuto) planned on betraying him.
You guys are going to force me to have to go rewatch that arc to prove you wrong.
I distinctly remember Kabuto explaining to one of our heroes how he worships Orochimaru and thinks he's the greatest, with this maniacal devoted follower look that you often see with fanatical followers. I'll take a screenshot if I can find it.
“For God will not permit that we shall know what is to come... those who by some sorcery or by some dream might come to pierce the veil that lies so darkly over all that is before them may serve by just that vision to cause that God should wrench the world from its heading and set it upon another course altogether and then where stands the sorcerer? Where the dreamer and his dream?”
Akatsuki Leader for sure. He's the leader of the biggest (and supposedly) the strongest criminal group so far in the world of Naruto. God knows what he has up his sleeves...
Anyway, if Orochimaru tries that mind-transfer technique on the Akatsuki Leader instead of those other weaklings, I'm pretty sure he would be my favourite villian.
Ahh yes, that's right.....the whole threatening to kill Sasuke thing....and then Oro actually says "perhaps he will kill sasuke-kun after all."
That was a weird transaction between the two of them.
No, during the Tsunade arc, there was not a single point where Oro thought kabuto betrayed him. Not even when kabuto threw the kunai between oro and tsunade.
10/4/04 - 8/20/07
NO I MEAN The dude who said this thing in the first place THOUGHT THAT!
lol has there been a episode with akatsuki leader(i don't know i haven't seen all yet)?
lol... orochimaru wants sasukes body becuse his goal is to get Sharingan, and with that powerful tool he can beat all akatsuki becuse he can obtain mangekujo(spelling) sharingan by killing kabuto(sacrifices...), and after mind-transfer he still has his jutsus and stuff...Anyway, if Orochimaru tries that mind-transfer technique on the Akatsuki Leader instead of those other weaklings, I'm pretty sure he would be my favourite villian.
The kill your closest friend requirement, if true, must be connected to some heightened emotions such a thing would cause for it to make any sense at all. Technically speaking killing your friend or your sister or your dad is no different than killing a total stranger, after all.
And I don't honestly believe Orochimaru would hesitate a fragment of a second to kill Kabuto. He's the kind of guy who considers people either convenient tools (and experimental subjects) or hated enemies bent on hindering his plans. I believe for him to achieve mangekyo he would need to kill either Tsunade or Jiraiya. And that's because once upon the times those two were his friends, and some lingering thread of friendship might still hide in his rotten heart.
But on the other hand, I wouldn't be surprised if he could actually achieve it by other less troublesome means. He's the Master of developing techniques, after all.
I would have to say that my favorite bad guy has to be (this is ify but plausible) Zabuza.
He was raised in cruelty, train in the art of brutality, rebelled against the society that created him, for he knew there had to be something better. He was head strong, fought for a dream that was out of his reach and died a warrior's death.
He was certainly not the strongest ninja there is, but was fearless, a demon of his own creation.
It's a shame that we didn't see or know very much about him, but from what I saw i like him character wise.
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Kabuto's origins are largely unknown; as a young boy he was found amongst the enemy dead after the battle of Kikyo Pass by a chief medical officer of the Konoha Medical Unit Squad. The officer brought Kabuto with him back to Konoha, raised him as a son, and taught him medical jutsu when he got older.
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well we can consider Zabuza to be rather strong than weak enemy, becuse kakashi had hard times with him...
btw moderators are spoilers allowed to be posted in white color as in some other forums are...
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I'd have to say my favourite bad guy so far has been the Nine Tails. It's hard to be a bad guy when you're locked inside one of the most annoying people in existence. I bet it takes all of the Nine Tails' evil power just to withstand that day in and day out. I want to see just how awesome Mr. Kyuubi can be.
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