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    Yeah I watched a few videos its definitely helpful and not a waste of time. I guess what I meant was if you watch a certain build and memorize it then try to recreate it step by step it takes a lot of soul out of the game. The pro's I just finished watching, The little one and braddock I think it was, Day9 guy was surprised by some of their tactics. Especially thelittleone's early on moves clearly wasn't something you see a zerg do all the time.

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    TheLittleOne does some weird shit all the time. He always pulls something really unconventional, which sometimes leads to a win, and sometimes backfires. Not to mention he always picks random for race.

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    TLO used to go random, but I think hes settled into Terran.

    All the creativity, or style you want to develop is worthless without mechanics, which is why I suggest making that your priority. No matter how good your strategy, if you can't execute it properly, it won't get you anywhere. Strategy can simply be taught. Mechanics takes practice, training, and repetition. Once you have your mechanics down, you can work on different strategies.

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    btw, you may be able to learn all the strategy, but the problem always lies in the implementation.

    I will try to summarize it.(probably lots of pro around here so pardon my insolence)

    1. Scouting early and keeping tabs on the behavior of your opponent and the resources available.
    2.Note various terrain features like ledges,slopes, natural bottleneck. - it could make a difference in the tightest battle.
    3.Micro-management via hotkeys.
    4.Learn what is the high value target, at various time this target may change.
    5.Positioning and consistent retreat and re-engage.
    (you would be surprise that with certain micro-managed unit, they were capable of inflicting greater damage/hp/vespene gas)

    6. Have a built order but morph it as the situation becomes obvious what your opponent is doing.
    7.Master Starcraft math, have a great sense of time management and basically be a compulsively fast operator.(people basically use a timer to time the speed of their screen movement, orders being inputted ect ect-much like the touch-typist that can type 200words per minute.)

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    Quote Originally Posted by depthcharge View Post
    much like the touch-typist that can type 200words per minute.)
    The touch-typist will actually have real world skill that can get them a job (albeit probably as a typist or secretary). I'm considering the worth of improving my skill at Starcraft. Is it really worth it, or would I rather spend my time getting my body fat percentage down and my bench press up? I also like to work on my lawn and car.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Animeniax View Post
    The touch-typist will actually have real world skill that can get them a job (albeit probably as a typist or secretary). I'm considering the worth of improving my skill at Starcraft. Is it really worth it, or would I rather spend my time getting my body fat percentage down and my bench press up? I also like to work on my lawn and car.
    Depends, lol. I mean, if you want to go to Korea and play it professionally, then you are going to have to play like 12 or more hours a day lol

    Top "Foreigners" (foreigners=non-Koreans in the Starcraft scene) normally play like 8 hours a day (this is a guess, but I'm pretty sure its close to accurate). But it varies from person to person, depending on their experience. Like I'm Diamond in both 1v1 and 2v2, and I only play maybe 2 hours a day. I'm no where close to the top Foreigners, but its enough for me. I also have lots of experience with Brood War (I played it competitively up until SC2 release), so that helps alot.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sentenal View Post
    Depends, lol. I mean, if you want to go to Korea and play it professionally, then you are going to have to play like 12 or more hours a day lol

    Top "Foreigners" (foreigners=non-Koreans in the Starcraft scene) normally play like 8 hours a day (this is a guess, but I'm pretty sure its close to accurate). But it varies from person to person, depending on their experience. Like I'm Diamond in both 1v1 and 2v2, and I only play maybe 2 hours a day. I'm no where close to the top Foreigners, but its enough for me. I also have lots of experience with Brood War (I played it competitively up until SC2 release), so that helps alot.
    There's a joke that goes "what's the best race in Starcraft? ...Korean." If you don't get it, pm me and I'll explain.

    I don't think I'll be able to devote 2 hours a day on any past-time, much less a video game. I'd like to make platinum in 1v1 or 2v2 and call it a successful endeavor, but I doubt I'll be able to spend the time to get to that level. At this point I'd just like to beat the SC2 campaign on hard level, which has proven difficult for some of the missions.


    For God will not permit that we shall know what is to come... those who by some sorcery or by some dream might come to pierce the veil that lies so darkly over all that is before them may serve by just that vision to cause that God should wrench the world from its heading and set it upon another course altogether and then where stands the sorcerer? Where the dreamer and his dream?

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    I always told my roommate that I don't want to be in diamond league, because that would just imply I have no life.

    Although apparently its possible without devoting 40 hours a week now that noobs have flooded the servers.
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    Well, if you like the game, and just stick with it, you will eventually make it to Platinum, or even higher. I think if you just play alot with your friends, watch videoes of all the best players, and try to learn what they do, eventually it will start to rub off on you. It just takes practice and experience.

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    A friend of mine is in diamond league with 110 games played, not sure if that is the usual, but 110 games since release doesn't look like no life to me. Depends how long they took obviously.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Xrlderek View Post
    A friend of mine is in diamond league with 110 games played, not sure if that is the usual, but 110 games since release doesn't look like no life to me. Depends how long they took obviously.
    It really depends on the person. Someone who is already great at Starcraft will have no problem breezing through the ranks. A person who is not as good might need to devote a lot more time

    Also, 110 games translate to 55 hours if each game takes 30 minutes. If you're good and win each game fast then it could be as low as 10 min per game or as high as 50 min per game if you get into a stalemate. The game has been out for about 15 days so 55 hours is around 3.7 hours per day. It's different for every person, but it's no doubt that someone new to starcraft or is at an average level will need to dedicate quite a bit of time in order to get to diamond.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dark Dragon View Post
    It really depends on the person. Someone who is already great at Starcraft will have no problem breezing through the ranks. A person who is not as good might need to devote a lot more time

    Also, 110 games translate to 55 hours if each game takes 30 minutes. If you're good and win each game fast then it could be as low as 10 min per game or as high as 50 min per game if you get into a stalemate. The game has been out for about 15 days so 55 hours is around 3.7 hours per day. It's different for every person, but it's no doubt that someone new to starcraft or is at an average level will need to dedicate quite a bit of time in order to get to diamond.
    Good points. 110 games to get to diamond league means he spent a lot more time playing the original SC (and probably other RTS games). Not that that alone proves he has no life, but it suggests it.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Xrlderek View Post
    A friend of mine is in diamond league with 110 games played, not sure if that is the usual, but 110 games since release doesn't look like no life to me. Depends how long they took obviously.
    I'm fairly certain those weren't the first 110 games he's ever played.
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    I was promoted to diamond after about 25 games. It's not like you have to devote your life to it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by FairyGirl View Post
    I was promoted to diamond after about 25 games. It's not like you have to devote your life to it.
    I imagine being female had a LOT to do with it.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Animeniax View Post
    I imagine being female had a LOT to do with it.
    She's just really good.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dark Dragon View Post
    She's just really good.
    Do you know her personally or are you trying to get brownie points with her?


    For God will not permit that we shall know what is to come... those who by some sorcery or by some dream might come to pierce the veil that lies so darkly over all that is before them may serve by just that vision to cause that God should wrench the world from its heading and set it upon another course altogether and then where stands the sorcerer? Where the dreamer and his dream?

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    I made Diamond in roughly 25 games too. Mainly due to experience in Brood War and the Beta. So like I said, it just takes experience.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Animeniax View Post
    Do you know her personally or are you trying to get brownie points with her?
    I've played her and got completely destroyed. I also have her on my friendlist and can see her record. So yes, she's very good.

    It's also kinda pointless for me to try and get "brownie points" with someone i barely know on an internet forum.

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