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    Quote Originally Posted by DB_Hunter
    Actually I think he did make a seal in the middle of all that talking with Kakashi. It was at the point when Kakashi warned everyone not to look in to Itachi's eyes.
    Most likely... I mean back when Itachi and Kisame first came to Konoha... Itachi did a jutsu by just taking out some ninja stars. I think it said it's because he's too fast to be seen or something like that. But that makes him godly. Perhaps his eyes probably make it look like he's fast.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Psyke
    I'm a manga reader too, but I'll take extra care not to let people suspect that I'm spoiling when I'm actually just speculating.

    You guys need to realise that Genjitsu doesn't require the opponent to look into the users eyes. There are instances to show that there are other ways to let the opponent fall into Genjustu. It's only the Uchihas who specialises in the Sharingan, which activates Genjutsu through their eyes. So, it's definately possible that the Genjutsu that Naruto is in was activatated by seals instead.

    However, the reflection theory was really cool and I think I'm quite slow in not realising that it was a possibility.
    It had occured before in the series. When Kurenai went behind Asuma's back and started her genjutsu against Itachi. No eyes met there.
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    And Kabuto's genjutsu during the Chuunin Exam Finals. It put most of the present asleep.

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    Great episode IMO, pretty damn evil cliffhanger there.
    I really loved the music that started when Gai released the gates and Neji got the kids out of the bubbles and stuff. It would have been perfect if Neji & Tenten kissed each other when Ten said "thank you"! Didn't you see that loving glare?! Oh yeah. Neji is so hot.


    Oh and Mizuchi is hilariously retarded.

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    Yeah, once the finger thing was revealed I just assumed Itachi did one of his "hand seals so fast you can't even fucking see me do it!" jutsus.





    Poor Mizuchi...

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    ...i go away for a weekend and...

    I still am not sure if I like the idea of someone being able to cast Jutsu with just one finger. Seems a little cheap, and makes me wonder why they go to the trouble of doing seals and all that if there's a different way... Maybe it's rings, maybe it's his nail polish, who knows?

    Interesting to hear that Ten-ten's struggling wasn't in the manga. I really was pissed at her weakness. I mean, she's obviously not on the level of Neji or Lee, so she should just stay back and not cause them trouble...

    Yes, it's partly the music. I'm convinced the animation isn't terrible; it's decent enough to convey emotion. But the music is just so blaise. I'm also sure there's something going on with the cuts and camera angles, something to do with the earlier discussion about "feeling like DragonballZ". I can't put my finger on it yet... but I'm pretty sure the constant breaks they have, flipping between fights, is actually making it less suspenseful than it should be.

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    Quote Originally Posted by NM
    THAT'S ENOUGH.
    Mizuchi and Animeniax, both of you are getting temp banned. Mizuchi for the unecessary flaming and Animeniax for trying to fan the flame war. DarthMoe is getting a warning.
    My ban was bs. Not being a manga-reader, I actually believed animus' "ring reflection genjutsu" was a spoiler, and I was voicing my displeasure at that. I think it's pretty unfair to be banned and accused of "fanning the flame war" when my feelings were genuine and not meant to incite, but I guess with my reputation, that sort of prejudice will exist. My apologies to the community for mucking things up.

    Lots of cool theories here on how genjutsu can be performed, though it seems like lots of new uninformed and unintelligent posters are discussing Naruto these days.

    I doubt they'll improve on Tenten's abilities, unless she starts summoning animals instead of just farm tools.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Animeniax
    cool theories here on how genjutsu can be performed, though it seems like lots of new uninformed and unintelligent posters are discussing Naruto these days.
    No way, where? Who?

    Being uninformed about the constantly changing rules of Naruto is pretty easy... I had no clue if it was the ring, Itachi being 1337, or some combination of the two that let him cast a Genjutsu like that. However, Jiraiya's explanation about Genjutsu, how it's essentially an outsider using their chakra inside your head, seems to indicate that it could be done with just a finger. Like Ino's body control jutsu, as long as that person can project their chakra into their target, they can fool/control the senses, and if they don't need hand seals to do that, more power to them...

    I'm just a little unclear as to why people need to perform hand seals in the first place... How does making a bunch of movements with your hands and saying names of animals help them shoot a fireball or make an illusion?

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    Quote Originally Posted by masamuneehs
    I'm just a little unclear as to why people need to perform hand seals in the first place... How does making a bunch of movements with your hands and saying names of animals help them shoot a fireball or make an illusion?

    I had originally taken it as the same idea as the mark Jiraiya drew on his and Naruto's hands, a concentration aide so to speak. However, that doesn't explain why different hand signs are required for different techniques. I doubt they will ever explain that.

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    I think it has something to do with releasing chakra in pre set ways. You mold chakra and release it from your hands, then as you perform the hand seals the chakra gets mixed and moved in some set way, then add a little will power and poof you've got a jutsu. The act of performing the hand seal 'mixes' the chakra into the correct form so your mind can then work with it more easily. This is just a speculation though. I doubt it would be deemed important enough to explain hand seals this far into the story.

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